Newton's Laws - friction, tension, acceleration

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The discussion revolves around a physics problem involving Newton's Laws, specifically focusing on friction, tension, and acceleration of two blocks connected by a string and subjected to a pulling force. The problem presents equations for the forces acting on each block and seeks to determine the acceleration and tension in the string.

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Newton's Laws -- friction, tension, acceleration

A block of mass m1 = 2 kg and a block of mass m2 = 3 kg are tied together and are pulled from rest across the floor by a force of Fp = 24 N. The coefficient of friction of the blocks with the floor is μ = 0.27.

a) What is the acceleration of the two blocks?

b) What is the tension in the string between the blocks? I think that this can be solved by setting up two equations: m1a = T - μm1g

and

m2a = Fp - T - μm2gThe unknowns in those two equations are exactly what I need -- acceleration and tension. Anybody know how to solve this?!
 
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What have you tried so far to solve them? Hint: Try adding them together.
 


Yes, I tried adding the two together by solving for T and plugging that equation into the other. Unfortunately, after crunching the numbers, I did not come to the correct answer.
 


buckybadger said:
Yes, I tried adding the two together by solving for T and plugging that equation into the other. Unfortunately, after crunching the numbers, I did not come to the correct answer.
Show what you did.

(Just add the two equations. What happens to the T terms?)
 


The two equations are:

m1a = T - μm1g

m2a = Fp - T - μm2g

I solved for T as such:

T = m1a + μm1g



Substituting this T value into the second equation, I got:

m2a = Fp - (m1a + μm1g) - μm2g


So,

3a = 24 - (2a + (0.27)(2)(9.8)) - (0.27)(3)(9.8)

Solving for a, I got 5a = 21.35, or a = 4.27 m/s^2. Unfortunately, I do not believe that this is the correct answer.

(Thanks for helping me with this!)
 


buckybadger said:
So,

3a = 24 - (2a + (0.27)(2)(9.8)) - (0.27)(3)(9.8)

Solving for a, I got 5a = 21.35, or a = 4.27 m/s^2. Unfortunately, I do not believe that this is the correct answer.
No, not correct. Your equation is fine, just check your arithmetic. (Careful with parentheses and signs.)
 

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