Newton's laws of motion -- Constaint motion

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The discussion centers on a physics problem involving a massless pulley subjected to a constant force P. Participants analyze the relationship between the force, tension in the wire, and the resulting acceleration of the block. The correct acceleration is determined to be P/2M, while the tension in the wire is established as T = P/2. The use of free body diagrams is emphasized as a critical tool for solving the problem accurately.

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  • Basic knowledge of tension in strings and pulleys
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Homework Statement


In the following diagram a massless pulley is pulled by a constant force of magnitude P. There is no friction between the block and the floor. The acceleration produced in the block if mass m is? PIC ATTACHED

Homework Equations


Took a1/2=a2 where a1 is accn of block and a2 is accn of pulley since a3 that is accn of the string attached to wall is 0

The Attempt at a Solution


tried solving by taking acceleration but found that pulley is massless so I'm pretty confused atm and pls help me and clear my doubt
 

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Answer is P/2M but i end up getting P/M
 
If P is the force pulling the pulley, what is the tension in the wire?
 
That is not given sir...and P is the force pulling pulley
Chestermiller said:
If P is the force pulling the pulley, what is the tension in the wire?
 
Vv anand said:
That is not given sir...and P is the force pulling pulley
Have you drawn a free body diagram of the pulley, or do you feel that you have advanced beyond the point where you need to use free body diagrams? From a free body diagram of the pulley, what are the three forces acting on the (massless) pulley?
 
Chestermiller said:
If P is the force pulling the pulley, what is the tension in the wire?
Yes sir P is the force on the pulley,
Tension is not given..I calculated it as MG as There does not exist any other force that exists on M (surface is frictionless)
 
Vv anand said:
Yes sir P is the force on the pulley,
Tension is not given..I calculated it as MG as There does not exist any other force that exists on M (surface is frictionless)
Chestermiller said:
Have you drawn a free body diagram of the pulley, or do you feel that you have advanced beyond the point where you need to use free body diagrams? From a free body diagram of the pulley, what are the three forces acting on the (massless) pulley?
I hv drawn it..just had the doubt that Is P=2T?
 
Vv anand said:
I hv drawn it..just had the doubt that Is P=2T?
Let's see your diagram.
 
Vv anand said:
Yes sir P is the force on the pulley,
Tension is not given..I calculated it as MG as There does not exist any other force that exists on M (surface is frictionless)
You don't think that the wire tension is acting on the mass?
 
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Chestermiller said:
Let's see your diagram.
Of course sir
 

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Chestermiller said:
You don't think that the wire tension is acting on the mass?
Yes sir i just uploaded the fbd
 
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Is it correct...By doing this i get the answer
 
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So, as you have found from your fbd, P=2T. So, ma=T=P/2
 
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Chestermiller said:
So, as you have found from your fbd, P=2T. So, ma=T=P/2
Wow!...I calculated it myself... Hats off to ur organization sir...Really obliged to get to know about ur organization ..Will surely recommend it to others
 

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