Newton's second law with vectors

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The discussion revolves around applying Newton's second law to a problem involving a 9 kg object subjected to two forces, with the goal of determining its acceleration, velocity, and position over time. The context includes vector notation and the implications of using forces in calculations.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the addition of forces to find the net force and question the correctness of their calculated acceleration. There is an exploration of whether to express results in decimal or fractional form.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided guidance on checking the correctness of the calculations and the use of fractions. There is a recognition of the need for constant acceleration in applying the equations for velocity and position.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of ensuring that the acceleration is constant to use the kinematic equations for velocity and position correctly. There is also mention of the potential for misunderstanding due to the format of answers submitted in online platforms.

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Homework Statement


A 9 kg object is subjected to two forces, [PLAIN]http://www.webassign.net/images/Farrowbolditalic.gif1 = 7 N i - 4 N j and [PLAIN]http://www.webassign.net/images/Farrowbolditalic.gif2 = 7 N i - 9 N j. The object is at rest at the origin at time t = 0.

(a) What is the object's acceleration?

(b) What is its velocity at time t = 14 s?

(c) Where is the object at time t = 14 s?

(All answers in unit vector notation)

Homework Equations


(a) Fnet=ma

(b) V = V0 + at

(c) X = X0 + V0t + 1/2at2

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) Fnet = F1 + F2 = 14i - 13j

Fnet = ma -> a = (14i-13j)/9
a = 1.56i - 1.44j (MARKED INCORRECT)

Why is this incorrect? If a = F/m then all I should have to do is add up the forces to get Fnet.

(b and c) I've used the equations above and got the answers wrong. Overall, I won't be able to get these answers correct unless I get the correct acceleration.
 
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Shadow236 said:

Homework Statement


A 9 kg object is subjected to two forces, [PLAIN]http://www.webassign.net/images/Farrowbolditalic.gif1 = 7 N i - 4 N j and [PLAIN]http://www.webassign.net/images/Farrowbolditalic.gif2 = 7 N i - 9 N j. The object is at rest at the origin at time t = 0.

(a) What is the object's acceleration?

(b) What is its velocity at time t = 14 s?

(c) Where is the object at time t = 14 s?

(All answers in unit vector notation)

Homework Equations


(a) Fnet=ma

(b) V = V0 + at

(c) X = X0 + V0t + 1/2at2

The Attempt at a Solution


(a) Fnet = F1 + F2 = 14i - 13j

Fnet = ma -> a = (14i-13j)/9
a = 1.56i - 1.44j (MARKED INCORRECT)

Why is this incorrect?

Probably because ##1.56\ne14/9## and ##-1.44\ne -13/9##. They are just decimal approximations to the fractions, which are the correct answers.
 
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So you think that I was correct to add F1 and F2? If that is true I should just leave Fnet as 14/9i - 13/9j?
 
Yes. You could always ask your teacher, or if it's an online problem, try typing in the fractions. In that case be sure to use parentheses as in (14/9)i
 
Alright, I will try that. Thank you very much. Are my equations for (b) and (c) okay? I just want to check because I've already submitted this question a few times.

EDIT: Hey, I got it right! =D Fractions for life, haha. Thanks a lot!
 
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Those equations (b and c) are valid only if you have constant acceleration. Do you have constant acceleration? If so, you can use them.
 
Yes, I had constant acceleration. Thank you.
 

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