No idea to do this differential equation queation.

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The discussion revolves around solving a differential equation of the form x²y' + xy y' - 6y² = 0, where y' represents dy/dx. Participants express uncertainty about how to approach the problem systematically.

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  • Some participants suggest assuming y is a polynomial and exploring the degrees of the terms to find a potential form for y. Others mention the possibility of using integrating factors to make the equation exact. There is also a hint to differentiate a related expression, x²y².

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The discussion is ongoing, with various approaches being explored. Some participants have provided hints and suggestions, but there is no clear consensus on a method or solution yet. The introduction of a corrected version of the question indicates a need for clarification.

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One participant corrected the original equation, indicating that the problem may have been misunderstood initially. This correction may affect the approaches being considered.

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x2y1+xyy1-6y2=0
find solution for this differential equation.

y1 mean dy/dx

How to do this question. I have no idea.
 
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x2y1+xyy1-6y2=0

[tex]x^2 \frac{dy}{dx} + xy\frac{dy}{dx} - 6y^2 = 0[/tex]

I don't know how to do it systematically, but one may reason about it.

If we assume [itex]y[/itex] is an nth degree polynomial in x, the degrees of the 3 terms are n+1, 2n, 2n. For the terms to cancel, we need n+1 = 2n, so n = 1.

So try letting [itex]y = Cx + D[/itex] and solve for [itex]C[/itex] and [itex]D[/itex].

If there is a "proper" way of doing it, I hope someone tells us.
 
Hint: Try differentiating x^2*y^2.
 
Stephen Tashi said:
[tex]x^2 \frac{dy}{dx} + xy\frac{dy}{dx} - 6y^2 = 0[/tex]

I don't know how to do it systematically, but one may reason about it.

If we assume [itex]y[/itex] is an nth degree polynomial in x, the degrees of the 3 terms are n+1, 2n, 2n. For the terms to cancel, we need n+1 = 2n, so n = 1.

So try letting [itex]y = Cx + D[/itex] and solve for [itex]C[/itex] and [itex]D[/itex].

If there is a "proper" way of doing it, I hope someone tells us.

Maple 14 gets the solution as
y = (x/5)*[1+Z(z)^5], where Z(x) is a solution of the equation 5z^6 - cxz^5 - cx=0, and c is an arbitrary constant. When you take c = 0 the solution is pretty simple; otherwise, it is likely horrible.

RGV
 
Ray Vickson said:
Maple 14 gets the solution as
y = (x/5)*[1+Z(z)^5], where Z(x) is a solution of the equation 5z^6 - cxz^5 - cx=0, and c is an arbitrary constant.

I wonder if human beings are supposed to do it by "integrating factors"

[tex](x^2 + xy) \frac{dy}{dx} - 6y^2 = 0[/tex]

Is not an "exact" differential equation, but perhaps there is an integrating factor M(x,y) so that:
[itex]M(x,y)(x^2 + xy)\frac{dy}{dx} - 6M(x,y)y^2 = 0[/itex] is exact.
 
sorry sorry sorry this is wrong question.
The correct question.correct one is
x2y12+xyy1-6y2=0
 
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Factor this.

Let u = x·y',

then u2 + uy -6y2 = 0

Factor the left hand side.

(u+3y)(u-2y)=0

Solve for u, then put x·y' back in for u .

Can you take it from there?
 

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