Non-central force and work done

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The discussion centers on the concept of work done by non-central forces in circular motion. It is established that when an object returns to its original position after traveling a distance, the total work done is zero, regardless of the force components involved. Specifically, the radial force F(r) does not perform work since the radius remains constant, while the angular component F(θ) also results in zero work as the angle returns to its initial value after completing a full rotation of 2π radians. This analysis confirms that the work done is indeed zero for non-central forces in this context.

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when we start from a point say 'O' cover some distance and back to same point work done in the case is zero.will it be zero too for the non-central force as given below in pic.. am i solving it in the right way?
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Samia qureshi said:
when we start from a point say 'O' cover some distance and back to same point work done in the case is zero.will it be zero too for the non-central force as given below in pic.. am i solving it in the right way?

i do not understand your differential d(phi) ; how this is defined...
well you have a force which has two parts radial one F(r) and F(theta) the motion is in a plane (r, theta) so any displacement has two parts ;
as it is moving in a circle r is not changing so no work done by the radial force ...as regards theta part as the angle is changing and it returns to the same point after covering 2.pi angle ...
how come the work done will be zero ...so try to analyse your answer.
 
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drvrm said:
i do not understand your differential d(phi) ; how this is defined...
well you have a force which has two parts radial one F(r) and F(theta) the motion is in a plane (r, theta) so any displacement has two parts ;
as it is moving in a circle r is not changing so no work done by the radial force ...as regards theta part as the angle is changing and it returns to the same point after covering 2.pi angle ...
how come the work done will be zero ...so try to analyse your answer.
means if angle changes work done will not b zero? if angle changes and still it returns to same point then will it b zero?
 
Samia qureshi said:
when we start from a point say 'O' cover some distance and back to same point work done in the case is zero.will it be zero too for the non-central force as given below in pic.. am i solving it in the right way?
Is the circle that it travels along centered at the origin?
 

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