Non-homogeneous differential equation

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The discussion revolves around solving a non-homogeneous differential equation with variable coefficients, specifically the equation y''+(1/x)y'-(A0/x)y = -B0/x, where A0 and B0 are constants. Participants are exploring methods to find a solution and discussing the nature of the equation.

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  • Participants consider transforming the equation into a simpler form, specifically a Bessel equation, and discuss the implications of this transformation. There are questions about the nature of particular solutions and the confusion surrounding the terminology of "general" and "particular" solutions.

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The discussion is active, with participants providing insights and clarifications about the transformation process and the types of Bessel functions relevant to the problem. Some participants express confusion about specific aspects of the solutions and terminology, indicating a collaborative effort to clarify these points.

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There is a noted complexity in the problem due to the presence of variable coefficients and the specific form of the non-homogeneous term. Participants are also grappling with the definitions and roles of particular and general solutions in the context of differential equations.

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1. Homework Statement

I am trying to find out the soulution of the following non homogeneous differential equation with variable coefficients. The differential equation is given as follows

2. Homework Equations

y''+(1/x)y'-(A0/x)y = -B0/x

where,
A0,B0 = constants

Does anyone have any idea how to solve this one?
help is greatly appriciated..
Thanks!
 
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First consider the EDO :
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = 0
Let x = k t² and determine k so that the EDO be transformed into :
y''(t) +(1/t)y'(t) -y(t) = 0
which is a basic form of Bessel equation.
Then, consider the complete EDO :
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = -B0/x
A particular solution is obvious. Add it to the preceeding result.
 
I don't quite get the transformation..Could you please expand it a little bit
Thanks..
 
A little bit more expanded ... in attachment
 

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JJacquelin said:
A little bit more expanded ... in attachment

thanks a lot..was really appriciated
 
I got the solution but if i want to perform simulations i need a general solution of bessel funtion of the first kind...There are 1000 different forms of this funtion available..I am a bit confused which to use?

Could you help?
 
There are 1000 different forms of this funtion available..I am a bit confused which to use?
There is only one "Modified Bessel Function of the first kind" and order zero, which symbol is I0.
There is only one "Modified Bessel Function of the second kind" and order zero, which symbol is K0.
That is all what you need.
 
thanks mate...I couldent understand that J0 ist the 0th order..
 
JJacquelin said:
First consider the EDO :
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = 0
Let x = k t² and determine k so that the EDO be transformed into :
y''(t) +(1/t)y'(t) -y(t) = 0
which is a basic form of Bessel equation.
Then, consider the complete EDO :
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = -B0/x
A particular solution is obvious. Add it to the preceeding result.

The perticular solution is not that obvious...As after taken general form of perticular solution as y=a*x^-1 i am getting pretty weird results..Am i doing it right?
 
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Hi mate !
The perticular solution is not that obvious...
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = -B0/x
Obviously, y(x) = B0/A0 is a particular solution.
 
  • #12
but there is 1/x on the RHS ...what will be the general form the Particular integral...As you can see i am not so good in math..
 
  • #13
but there is 1/x on the RHS
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = -B0/x
Just plug y(x) = B0/A0 into the ODE
y'(x)=0 since y(x)=constant
y''(x)=0
0 + 0 -(A0/x)(B0/A0) = -B0/x
The equality in the ODE is achieved.
So, y(x) = B0/A0 is a solution of the ODE.
what will be the general form the Particular integral
It makes no sens : "general" and "particular" are contradictory and what "integral" ?
 
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JJacquelin said:
y''(x) +(1/x)y'(x) -(A0/x)y(x) = -B0/x
Just plug y(x) = B0/A0 into the ODE
y'(x)=0 since y(x)=constant
y''(x)=0
0 + 0 -(A0/x)(B0/A0) = -B0/x
The equality in the ODE is achieved.
So, y(x) = B0/A0 is a solution of the ODE.

It makes no sens : "general" and "particular" are contradictory and what "integral" ?

i think he means Yp

y=Yc+Yp

Yc= complimentary solution
Yp=particular solution (user called it particular integral)
 
  • #15
Yes generally in the calculus or differential equations books it is called as perticular integral..And this definition is also not so senseless..but anyways that's a million for your help..
 

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