Non-Integrability of a Pfaffian - Geometric Interpretation?

In summary, non-integrability in relation to a Pfaffian refers to a differential equation that requires multiple functions to solve. A Pfaffian has a geometric interpretation and represents the relationships between variables in a system of differential equations. In mathematics, a non-integrable Pfaffian can lead to more complex and interesting systems and can be approximated using numerical and perturbation methods. Its non-integrability is also related to chaos and unpredictability in the behavior of the system.
  • #1
bolbteppa
309
41
The question of Solving a Pfaffian ODE can be interpreted as the question of finding the family of surfaces [itex]U = c[/itex] perpendicular to a surface [itex]f[/itex] generated by the vector field

$$F(x,y,z) = (P(x,y,z),Q(x,y,z),R(x,y,z))$$

At each point, the gradient of the family of surfaces [itex]U = c[/itex] will either be parallel or equal to [itex]F[/itex].

Thus
$$\vec{\nabla}u = (∂u/∂x,∂u/∂y,∂u/∂z) = λ(P(x,y,z),Q(x,y,z),R(x,y,z))$$ should hold at each point.
This is just kind of basic & general from the geometry of the situation, & motivates the idea of a potential.

In standard terminology, if the field F is potential we have that
$$\vec{\nabla}u = (∂u/∂x,∂u/∂y,∂u/∂z) = (P(x,y,z),Q(x,y,z),R(x,y,z))$$
If the field is not potential we may be able to find an integrating factor such that
$$\vec{\nabla}u = (∂u/∂x,∂u/∂y,∂u/∂z) = μ(x,y,z)(P(x,y,z),Q(x,y,z),R(x,y,z))$$
In other words, the integrating factor is a function that, when evaluated at each point, merely acts as a scale factor so that [itex]F[/itex] living on a surface becomes equal to the gradient of the family of surfaces orthogonal to it. In this case we can indeed claim that a family of surfaces lies orthogonal to our vector field, & we can solve for it (using, by my last count, 8 different methods).

One can show that an integrability condition [itex]<F, \vec{\nabla} \times F> = 0[/itex] must hold in order for a pfaffian to be integrable. In other words, it seems as though the integrability condition must hold in order for there to exist a family of surfaces orthogonal to the surface in which the vector field lives, however according to my book even in the case when the integrability condition fails one can find families of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field, by eliminating some variable & reducing the pfaffian to an ode (the orthogonal surfaces in this case are cylinders).

What's going on here? How can the integrability condition fail yet there still exist families of surfaces (cylinders) orthogonal to the vector field when the whole point of the method is that they can only be found when the integrability condition holds? Thanks for reading.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
  • #2



Thank you for bringing up this interesting question about solving Pfaffian ODEs. I agree that the idea of finding a family of surfaces orthogonal to a given vector field is a useful way to approach the problem. However, as you mentioned, there are cases where the integrability condition may fail, yet there still exist families of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field.

One possible explanation for this is that the integrability condition is necessary, but not sufficient, for the existence of a family of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field. In other words, if the condition fails, we know for sure that there is no family of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field, but if it holds, there may still be other cases where a family of surfaces exists.

Another possibility is that the existence of a family of surfaces orthogonal to a vector field may not always be unique. In some cases, there may be multiple families of surfaces that are orthogonal to the vector field, even if the integrability condition holds. This could explain why there may still be families of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field in cases where the condition fails.

It is also worth noting that there are different methods for solving Pfaffian ODEs, as you mentioned. Each method may have its own limitations and assumptions, which could also impact the existence of families of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field.

In conclusion, while the integrability condition is an important factor to consider when solving Pfaffian ODEs, it may not always be the only determining factor for the existence of families of surfaces orthogonal to the vector field. Further investigation and research may be needed to fully understand these cases where the condition fails, yet families of surfaces still exist. Thank you for bringing up this thought-provoking question.
 

FAQ: Non-Integrability of a Pfaffian - Geometric Interpretation?

1. What is the concept of non-integrability in relation to a Pfaffian?

The concept of non-integrability in relation to a Pfaffian refers to a differential equation that cannot be solved by finding a single function that satisfies it. Instead, the solution requires multiple functions to be combined in a specific way.

2. How does a Pfaffian relate to geometry?

A Pfaffian can be thought of as a geometric object, specifically a differential form, that captures the relationship between the variables in a system. It represents a geometric interpretation of a system of differential equations.

3. What is the significance of a non-integrable Pfaffian in mathematics?

A non-integrable Pfaffian can represent a more complex and interesting system than one that is integrable. It allows for a deeper understanding of the relationships between variables and can lead to new insights and discoveries in mathematics.

4. Can a non-integrable Pfaffian be solved?

While a non-integrable Pfaffian cannot be solved by finding a single function, there are methods for approximating solutions and understanding the behavior of the system. These include numerical methods and techniques such as perturbation theory.

5. How is the non-integrability of a Pfaffian related to chaos and unpredictability?

A non-integrable Pfaffian can lead to chaotic behavior in a system, where small changes in initial conditions can result in drastically different outcomes. This unpredictability is a consequence of the complexity of the system and the non-integrability of the Pfaffian.

Similar threads

Replies
5
Views
643
Replies
1
Views
2K
Replies
13
Views
2K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
4
Views
4K
Replies
3
Views
1K
Replies
2
Views
2K
Replies
5
Views
617
Replies
1
Views
3K
Replies
1
Views
2K
Back
Top