Non-Volatile Memory Component for Disposable Item Tracking

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The discussion revolves around finding a non-volatile memory component suitable for tracking the status of disposable items, specifically to indicate whether they are new or spent. The focus is on exploring various physical mechanisms and materials that can achieve this goal in a compact and cost-effective manner.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant suggests using a tamper sensor or a conductive component that can be mechanically broken to indicate status.
  • Another proposes a latching relay as a potential solution, questioning the availability of small and inexpensive versions.
  • A participant describes the physical constraints of the project, emphasizing the need for a compact solution that fits within a hand and is suitable for disposable trays.
  • Ideas include using small heating points to melt a material and break a connection, as well as experimenting with conductors atop hard wax.
  • Another participant considers a conductive membrane that can be pierced to sever the connection.
  • There is a suggestion to use color-changing tape that reacts to light or electrical current, with optical techniques proposed for reading the change.
  • A spring-loaded mechanism is mentioned as a way to indicate status when the tray is removed, utilizing a reflective photosensor for detection.
  • One participant references a specific product that might be relevant to the discussion.

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Participants present multiple competing ideas and approaches without reaching a consensus on a single solution. The discussion remains open-ended with various hypotheses being explored.

Contextual Notes

Participants have not fully defined the limitations or assumptions of their proposed solutions, and there are unresolved questions regarding the feasibility and practicality of the suggested components.

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Hey all. I'm new here, so greetings.

Is there a component that provides a single bit of non-volatile memory? I'm looking for a way to flag an array of removable, disposable items as being new or spent. The value only needs to be set once (so something like an intentionally blown fuse would work), but it needs to be small, disposably cheap, and preserve state without power.

Thanks in advance for your thoughts!
 
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Something like a tamper sensor? Seems like you could do it with some conductive thing that gets mechanically broken. The fuse you mention would be good, and is commonly used if you have power available. You can also use a latching relay, which maintains the state when power is removed.

Welcome to the PF, BTW.
 
Thanks for the reply.

I like your generalization about something conductive that gets broken. I'll ponder on that and see what other possibilities present.

I'd also thought about a latching relay. Do you know if they exist in small and disposably cheap (less than $1) varieties? I hadn't heard of such a creature.
 
Welcome to PF, Hookt.
There are a lot of different ways to approach this. It would be helpful to know what sort of physical constraints are involved (size, attachment method, physical ruggedness, etc.) in order to home in on an appropriate one.
 
Hi, Danger.

My thought is for automating some small chemical tests, perhaps 6 or so at time. An ideal solution (pardon the pun) is the size of a playing card, give or take. Smaller is better; it needs to fit in one's hand.

The tests would be mounted on a removable, disposable tray. The tray would be replaced as a single unit, but each test on the tray would need its own new/spent flag.

The trays will likely be plastic (as they'll be disposable). The flag components would be physically attached to the tray, and make an electrical contact with a reader circuit when the tray is inserted.

The flag components shouldn't be fragile, but there's no extreme ruggedness requirement. A tray might accidentally fall from a table, but won't be run over by a tank (ordinarily).

Thanks for your thoughts!
 
How about small heating points (like nails) that the tray would rest on while in use? Power could be applied to melt a dent in the bottom of whichever cell you want.
 
I like that. I'm going to experiment with some conductor atop hard wax, using a separate current path to melt the wax and break the connection.

I'm also considering a conductive membrane that can be pierced to sever the connection.
 
Oh, and if I come up with anything interesting in the process, I'll post it here. I appreciate the ideas, guys.
 
I've been thinking about this and I'm wondering if you could use some sort of tape that would change colors when exposed to a light source/laser or electrical current. Then use optical techniques to read the change.
 
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dlgoff said:
I've been thinking about this and I'm wondering if you could use some sort of tape that would change colors when exposed to a light source/laser or electrical current. Then use optical techniques to read the change.

Hey, I like the idea of using light to read the change. A spring-loaded thing could pop when the tray is removed, and the moved position of whatever popped could be read using a reflective photosensor:

http://dkc3.digikey.com/PDF/T073/P2238.pdf


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As for tape, that stuff that they put on a battery package to test the cells might work well.
 

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