Nonhomogeneous Equations; Method of Undetermined Coefficient

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The problem involves solving a nonhomogeneous second-order linear differential equation, specifically 2y'' + 3y' + y = t² + 3sin(t). The context includes the method of undetermined coefficients for finding a particular solution.

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Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the approach of solving the equation by separating the nonhomogeneous terms, suggesting guesses for the particular solution based on the form of the nonhomogeneous part.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of different forms for the particular solution, with some participants suggesting specific polynomial forms and others expressing confusion about the method. Guidance has been offered regarding substituting guessed forms into the equation and equating coefficients.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty about the terminology used in the lesson regarding the method of undetermined coefficients, particularly the concept of ensuring no terms in the guessed solution are solutions to the homogeneous equation.

Jamin2112
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I'm stuck on just one problem.

Homework Statement



2y'' + 3y' + y = t2 + 3sin(t)

Homework Equations



It says in the lesson that if you have a polynomial, guess a solution is

"Yi(t)= Ts(A0tn + A1tn-1 + ... + An)

where s is the smallest nonnegative integer (s=0,1, or 2) that will ensure that no terms in Yi(t) is a solution of the corresponding homogeneous equation."

And I don't really understand that jargon. Maybe someone could dumb it down for me.

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the solution is the sum of two different functions, t2 and 3sin(t), I can solve the differential equation for each individually, and them add them together at the end since the sum of the solutions to a differential equation is also a solution.

I got the solution to
2y'' + 3y' + y = 3sin(t).

It is Y1(t) = (-3/10)sin(t) -(9/10)cos(t)

But Y2(t) is giving me trouble.

I guessed Y2(t) = A0t2 + A1t + A2 but ended up with a system equations that still had t in it; thus I couldn't solve it.

Set me on the right track.
 
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Just take your PI as

y=A+Bt+Ct2+Dsint+Ecost

then sub that into the different equation and equate coefficients.
 
rock.freak667 said:
Just take your PI as

y=A+Bt+Ct2+Dsint+Ecost

then sub that into the different equation and equate coefficients.

I already tried that, bro.

Does

I guessed Y2(t) = A0t2 + A1t + A2

ring a bell?
 
Sorry, I was used to doing the two together and not separately. Well just substitute y=A0+A1t+A2t2 into the equation. the coefficients of t and the constant on the right side would just be zero.Though when doing the undetermined coefficient method, I find it best to solve for the homogeneous solution first.
 
Jamin2112 said:
I'm stuck on just one problem.

Homework Statement



2y'' + 3y' + y = t2 + 3sin(t)

Homework Equations



It says in the lesson that if you have a polynomial, guess a solution is

"Yi(t)= Ts(A0tn + A1tn-1 + ... + An)

where s is the smallest nonnegative integer (s=0,1, or 2) that will ensure that no terms in Yi(t) is a solution of the corresponding homogeneous equation."

And I don't really understand that jargon. Maybe someone could dumb it down for me.

The Attempt at a Solution



Since the solution is the sum of two different functions, t2 and 3sin(t), I can solve the differential equation for each individually, and them add them together at the end since the sum of the solutions to a differential equation is also a solution.

I got the solution to
2y'' + 3y' + y = 3sin(t).

It is Y1(t) = (-3/10)sin(t) -(9/10)cos(t)

But Y2(t) is giving me trouble.

I guessed Y2(t) = A0t2 + A1t + A2 but ended up with a system equations that still had t in it; thus I couldn't solve it.
Then show us exactly what you did. Putting that into the left side will give a quadratic and you can set coefficients of corresponding terms equal. (If there is no "corresponding" term on one side, its coefficient is 0.)

Set me on the right track.
 

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