Nonlinear differential equation issue

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The discussion revolves around a nonlinear differential equation presented as an initial value problem. The equation is given as 2*y*y' + y^{2} = t, with the initial condition y(0) = -1. Participants are exploring methods to approach the problem, particularly focusing on the challenges of separation and integration.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster expresses difficulty in separating the equation and questions the validity of their approach. Some participants suggest considering substitutions to simplify the equation, while others propose transforming the variable to facilitate solving.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and suggestions for substitutions. There is a recognition of the challenges involved, and while some guidance has been provided, there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

Contextual Notes

The original poster mentions a lack of resources to work on the problem immediately, indicating potential constraints in their ability to explore solutions thoroughly. Additionally, there is a note of uncertainty regarding the use of LaTeX formatting in the forum.

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Homework Statement



This is just a nonlinear differential equation. All I have to do it solve it, though it is an initial value problem as well.

2*y*y' + y^{2} = t

Initial value:

y(0) = -1.


The Attempt at a Solution



This should be easy, but it doesn't seem easily separable to me. If you try separating it, then you end up with a integral of y^{2}dt, which doesn't seem right to me at all.

Maybe I'm missing something very fundamental?

And how do you get the Latex stuff to show up right? (sorry I'm new to trying to do Latex on a forum)

Thanks for any assistance. I know what I'm doing, I think, once I get started...
 
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Hi Fooze! Welcome to PF! :smile:

(try using the X2 tag just above the Reply box :wink:)
Fooze said:
2*y*y' + y^{2} = t

Hint: do you notice something about the lhs?

try a substitution :wink:
 
I haven't tried it yet on paper (don't have any handy for another 45 minutes or so) but should I be thinking like a u(t) = y(t)2?

That will leave me with a u' + u = t, I think? Then it's linear and really easy with an integrating factor. Is that the right thought?
 
Fooze said:
I haven't tried it yet on paper (don't have any handy for another 45 minutes or so) but should I be thinking like a u(t) = y(t)2?

That will leave me with a u' + u = t, I think? Then it's linear and really easy with an integrating factor. Is that the right thought?

Yup! :biggrin:

erm … can't you solve that in your head? :wink:
 
I don't trust myself at all solving integrating factor problems in my head. I had issues in the beginning of the semester with them... and it's just recently that I've been able to do them properly at all. ;)

But thanks so much for your help... I should be able to get it from there!
 

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