North Cliff Failure: Warning & Discussion

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Discussion Overview

The discussion centers around a recent cliff failure event on the North Coast of Cornwall, specifically near Hayle. Participants are sharing observations, geological insights, and safety considerations related to cliff walking and the geological conditions that may have contributed to the failure.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants emphasize the importance of caution when approaching cliff edges, particularly in relation to geological factors such as the type of rock and weather conditions.
  • One participant notes the dramatic nature of the mass wasting event and inquires about the specific geology of the area.
  • Another participant provides details about the geology, mentioning that the area consists mostly of sandstone and shale adjacent to granite, and references a potential cause for the collapse related to a fault plane.
  • Links to various geological reports and articles are shared, suggesting a rich geological history of the region, including references to Devonian slates and Carboniferous sandstones.
  • Concerns are raised about the possibility of future collapses, with mentions of new cracks appearing along the cliff top.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a general agreement on the need for caution around cliffs, but there are varying perspectives on the geological specifics and implications of the cliff failure. The discussion remains unresolved regarding the precise geological factors and future risks associated with the site.

Contextual Notes

Participants reference various geological sources and reports, indicating a complex geological context that may influence the stability of the cliffs. Specific assumptions about the geology and weather conditions are implied but not fully detailed.

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Apparantly we have missed this event some weeks ago.



Careful when walking on cliffs. (Look at the right top at 10 seconds.)

Looking forward to comments from geologists.
 
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I saw it when it first came out.
 
From the video - "The failure occurred at about 5pm on Friday 23rd September 2011. It took place on the North Coast of Cornwall."

One should always be careful approaching the edge of cliff, and depending on the geology (e.g., sandstone) and weather (following heavy rain), it's best to stay well away from some areas.
 
Dramatic mass wasting. What is the geology of that area?
 
The site is apparently North Cliffs near Hayle, Cornwall. The geology in the area seems mostly sandstone and shale on or adjacent to granite.

Hayle cliff fall 'could happen again' experts warn
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-cornwall-15246855
The collapse was recorded by geologist Richard Hocking - a soils and materials engineer for Cornwall Council.

More cracks have appeared along the cliff top, prompting fears of another collapse.
. . . .
The collapse of the cliff is thought to have been caused by a deep-seated inclined fault plane on which the rock mass slid.

Cornwall can really be imagined as a finger of 400 million year old Devonian slates along with Carboniferous sandstones and shales pointing across the Atlantic Ocean towards the USA, with a backbone of granite. . . . .
http://www.cornwallinfocus.co.uk/geography/geology.php

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geology_of_Cornwall
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cornwall#Physical_geography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devon#Geography_and_geology


Report on the geology of Cornwall, Devon and west Somerset By Henry Thomas De La Beche, 1839
http://books.google.com/books?id=YwC0A9Tv1KAC&lpg=PAi&pg=PA1#v=onepage&q&f=false

Geology near Penzance - http://www.pznow.co.uk/geology/geology.htm

West Penwith geology - http://projects.exeter.ac.uk/geomincentre/05West Penwith.pdf

http://www.cornwall-online.co.uk/penwith/hayle.htm
 

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