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The discussion focuses on analyzing a complex RL circuit involving both parallel and series components. Participants emphasize understanding the inductor's behavior in different scenarios: before the switch is closed, immediately after, and after a long time with the switch closed. It is suggested to draw separate circuit diagrams to visualize the inductor's role and determine the current through a specific resistor. The use of Thevenin's theorem is mentioned as a method to derive the necessary formula for current. Overall, grasping the inductor's characteristics in various states is crucial for solving the circuit problem.
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The circuit contains an ideal battery with emf E = 30 V, a resistor R1 = 10 Ω, and a parallel
branch consisting of a resistor R2 = 20 Ω and an ideal inductor L (the inductor’s internal resistance is negligible). The branch is connected to the battery through a switch K (see Fig.)
The switch K is left open for a long time, then at t = 0 it is suddenly closed, and after a long
time it is opened again.
Find the current I20 through resistor R2:
1. immediately after the switch is closed;
2. after a sufficiently long time has passed with the switch closed;
3. immediately after the switch is opened again
Relevant Equations
I(t)=I of infinite*(1-e^(-t/tau))
I of infinite=epsilon/R
tau=L/R
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I tried to use the formula of I(t), but I can not determine the R to substitute. Also, it is the circuit of both parallel and series, so I am not sure how the current goes.
 
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You don't need any formula to answer this. You need to understand what kind of circuit element the inductor behaves as in each of the limiting cases. Before t = 0 there is no current anywhere.
  1. Immediately after the switch is closed, the inductor will oppose any current that tries to go through it so it behaves as a _________________ .
  2. After a long time with the switch closed, there is a steady current everywhere, so the inductor behaves as a _________________ .
  3. Immediately after the switch is opened again, the inductor behaves as a _________________ . (Don't forget there is a current in it up to that point.)
I suggest that you draw three separate circuit diagrams with the inductor replaced by what you put in the blanks and analyze each separately to find the current in the 20 Ω resistor.
 
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What formula did you use for I(t)?
 
kuruman said:
You don't need any formula to answer this. You need to understand what kind of circuit element the inductor behaves as in each of the limiting cases. Before t = 0 there is no current anywhere.
  1. Immediately after the switch is closed, the inductor will oppose any current that tries to go through it so it behaves as a _________________ .
  2. After a long time with the switch closed, there is a steady current everywhere, so the inductor behaves as a _________________ .
  3. Immediately after the switch is opened again, the inductor behaves as a _________________ . (Don't forget there is a current in it up to that point.)
I suggest that you draw three separate circuit diagrams with the inductor replaced by what you put in the blanks and analyze each separately to find the current in the 20 Ω resistor.
I understand now. Thank you!
 
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rickyw2777 said:
I tried to use the formula of I(t), but I can not determine the R to substitute. Also, it is the circuit of both parallel and series, so I am not sure how the current goes.
The formula can be obtained by using the Thevenin equivalent circuit at the terminals of the inductor.
 
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