Not able to apply derviatives to a simple situation

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The discussion revolves around the application of derivatives in the context of calculating the sensitivity of a business's operating margin to changes in revenue. Participants explore the differentiation of the operating margin formula and address confusion regarding the interpretation of derivatives in this scenario.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses confusion about the derivative of the operating margin formula, questioning the validity of their calculation.
  • Another participant clarifies that the derivative represents a ratio rather than a percentage, providing an example to illustrate the point.
  • A participant reiterates their confusion, noting a discrepancy between their calculated rate of change and the derivative obtained.
  • Several participants inquire about the correct notation for differentiating a simple linear equation where a constant is involved, with varying responses regarding the correctness of their notation.
  • There is a repeated inquiry about the correctness of the derivative of the operating margin, with one participant affirming its accuracy.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus on the interpretation of the derivative in relation to the percentage change in operating margin, indicating ongoing confusion and disagreement about the application of derivatives in this context.

Contextual Notes

Some participants express uncertainty regarding the relationship between the derivative and percentage changes, and there are unresolved questions about notation in differentiation.

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Hi,

I am confused by this relatively simple problem.

The operating margin of a business = (Revenue – costs)/Revenue
M = (R-C)/R = 1 – C/R

Now I wish to find the sensitivity of M to changes in R. So I try to differentiate the equation by R

dM/dR = C/R^2

But this equation doesn’t make any sense to me. For example, consider this figures: R=100, C=38,
If R increases by 1%, M increases by 0.38%.

I am not sure what I am doing wrong.

Thanks.
 
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The derivative is not a percentage, it is a ratio:
If R= 100, C= 38 then M= 1- 38/100= .62. If R= 101, C= 38 then M=1- 38/101=.6238 so M has increased by .0038 which, divided by R, not M, is .38
 
Thanks HallsofIvy, but I am still confused.

When R increases by 1%, M increases by 0.38%. Thus the rate of change is 0.38.
But this answer still doesn't match with the derivative (dM/dR = C/R^2).
 
I also have a sub question.

How would you differentiate the following equation with R, where C is a constant. I am interested in the notation. Is my notation correct?

N = R - C

dN/dR = R * dR/dR
 
musicgold said:
I also have a sub question.

How would you differentiate the following equation with R, where C is a constant. I am interested in the notation. Is my notation correct?

N = R - C

dN/dR = R * dR/dR
No, it isn't. Again, the derivative of the constant, C, is 0 so dN/dR= dR/dR= 1.
 
Thanks.

Do you think the following derivative is correct?

M = (R-C)/R = 1 – C/R

dM/dR = C/R^2
 
musicgold said:
Thanks.

Do you think the following derivative is correct?

M = (R-C)/R = 1 – C/R

dM/dR = C/R^2
Yes, it's correct.
 
Thanks.
 

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