Not so basic algebraic fraction manipulation

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The discussion revolves around the manipulation of algebraic fractions, specifically the expression (ab)/(2c(d+e))+(ab)/(2c(d-e)) and its purported equivalence to (abd)/(c(d^2-e^2)). Participants are exploring the validity of this equation and the steps necessary to demonstrate the equality.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants express confusion about how to begin solving the problem and question the origin of the 'd' in the numerator. Some suggest factoring out common elements from the expression, while others emphasize the need to find a common denominator to add the fractions.

Discussion Status

The discussion is ongoing, with participants providing guidance on potential approaches, such as factoring and finding a common denominator. There is a mix of interpretations regarding the correctness of the original equation, with some participants asserting it is correct while others remain skeptical.

Contextual Notes

Participants mention that the problem was presented as an 'extra hard challenge,' indicating that it may be outside the typical scope of their current understanding or practice.

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Homework Statement



I am told this is wrong, but I am convinced it is right. I just need to show how but don't have a clue.



Homework Equations



(ab)/(2c(d+e))+(ab)/(2c(d-e))=(abd)/(c(d^2-e^2))



The Attempt at a Solution



I do not have a clue where to start. I am clueless as to where the d in the numerator comes from...

Any help at all, even a nudge would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
 
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namtip said:

Homework Statement



I am told this is wrong, but I am convinced it is right. I just need to show how but don't have a clue.



Homework Equations



(ab)/(2c(d+e))+(ab)/(2c(d-e))=(abd)/(c(d^2-e^2))



The Attempt at a Solution



I do not have a clue where to start. I am clueless as to where the d in the numerator comes from...

Any help at all, even a nudge would be very much appreciated.

Thanks

Didn't take me long but I don't make a virtue of that - practice does help.

You have no idea where to start?!

Come on - I don't believe you have never done anything like it. :smile:

Start making it easier by taking out a factor common that multiplies both parts of the expression.
 
namtip said:

Homework Statement



I am told this is wrong, but I am convinced it is right. I just need to show how but don't have a clue.

Homework Equations



(ab)/(2c(d+e))+(ab)/(2c(d-e))=(abd)/(c(d^2-e^2))

The Attempt at a Solution



I do not have a clue where to start. I am clueless as to where the d in the numerator comes from...

Any help at all, even a nudge would be very much appreciated.

Thanks
I'm just converting those expressions to LaTeX so they're easier to read.

[itex]\displaystyle \frac{ab}{2c(d+e)}+\frac{ab}{2c(d-e)}\text{ is possibly equal to }\frac{abd}{c(d^2-e^2)}[/itex]

What makes you think they're equal. If you're sure that they are equal, can you show the steps you take to get from the left hand expression to the right hand expression.

Also, who told you that you're wrong?
 
Seriously, my algebra is terrible. So I take out a factor that is common to both sides? I take it you mean both sides of the equals sign. That would be the 'ab' then. But when you say 'take out' I'm not sure what you mean. Like this?

ab*1/(2c(d+e))+ab*1/(2c(d-e))=ab*d/(c(d^2-e^2))
 
Hi SammyS

I wrote that first sentence wrong, I meant 'I am told this is right, but I think its wrong'. See? If I can't put a sentence together what hope do I have in algebra?! This is an example I got given and need to show the processes. I've solved all the others given to me except this one. It was thrown in as an 'extra hard challenge'.
 
namtip said:
Hi SammyS

I wrote that first sentence wrong, I meant 'I am told this is right, but I think its wrong'. See? If I can't put a sentence together what hope do I have in algebra?! This is an example I got given and need to show the processes. I've solved all the others given to me except this one. It was thrown in as an 'extra hard challenge'.
Well ... It is absolutely correct.

Find a common denominator (the 'smallest' common denominator is best.) and use it to add the fractions.
 
namtip said:
Seriously, my algebra is terrible. So I take out a factor that is common to both sides? I take it you mean both sides of the equals sign. That would be the 'ab' then. But when you say 'take out' I'm not sure what you mean. Like this?

ab*1/(2c(d+e))+ab*1/(2c(d-e))=ab*d/(c(d^2-e^2))

No; taking out a common factor means recognizing that
[tex]\frac{ab}{2c(d+e)} + \frac{ab}{2c(d-e)}[/tex]
can be written as
[tex]\frac{ab}{2c} \left[ \frac{1}{d+e} + \frac{1}{d-e} \right],[/tex]
so it is enough to simplify the part in square brackets; that is, it is enough to figure out what
[tex]\frac{1}{d+e} + \frac{1}{d-e}[/tex]
simplifies to. After that you can put back the factor [itex]ab/(2c).[/itex]

Note: typo fixed.

RGV
 
Last edited:
You meant
[tex]\frac{ab}{2c}[/tex]

(else may confuse). :smile:
 
epenguin said:
You meant
[tex]\frac{ab}{2c}[/tex]

(else may confuse). :smile:

Right: it is fixed.

RGV
 

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