Now what exactly does momentum mean

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The discussion centers on the concept of momentum in physics, exploring its definition and physical significance beyond the mathematical expression of mass times velocity. Participants seek to understand what momentum represents in a physical context, considering its implications in relation to force, inertia, and motion.

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  • Exploratory
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Main Points Raised

  • One participant expresses a need for a physical definition of momentum beyond the formula p=mv, suggesting it might represent "inertia with respect to velocity."
  • Another participant proposes that momentum is conserved in the absence of force, linking it to the concept of translational symmetry in space.
  • Newton's term "Quantity of Motion" is mentioned by multiple participants, though some argue it lacks physical intuition.
  • Some participants suggest that momentum represents the ability to maintain a body's state of motion or to change the motion of other bodies during collisions.
  • There is a mention of the unresolved nature of what causes mass to have inertia or momentum, indicating a fundamental question in physics.
  • One participant challenges the definition of momentum as a change in impulse, arguing that it makes intuitive sense based on force and time.
  • Another participant discusses the relationship between mass, velocity, and momentum, emphasizing that doubling mass or velocity should double the momentum.
  • There are references to various theories of inertia, indicating that understanding inertia is complex and multifaceted.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express a range of views on the definition and significance of momentum, with no clear consensus reached. Some agree on the importance of understanding momentum in relation to inertia, while others challenge the adequacy of existing definitions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the limitations of current definitions and the complexity of the concept of inertia, suggesting that the discussion is influenced by varying interpretations and theoretical frameworks.

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bomba923 said:
Now what exactly does momentum mean??
We think of force as a push or pull...
We acceleration as change in motion (speeding up/down, turning..etc-etc...)
We think speed as amt. distance/time...

But momentum??What is it---i need a definition OTHER than mass*velocity...
I need a definition other than a change in impulse (force*change in time)

What does momentum PHYSICALLY (push/pull, speed up/down) represent?

The closest thing in my head is "inertia with respect to velocity"--

But yeah...what does momentum PHYSICALLY represent? The product of mass and velocity...what does it MEAN? ("physically-speaking")?
I'll take a stab at it, FWIW.

Momentum may be thought of as a measure of the amount of external pushing or pulling a system has experienced in its past. Since p = \int Fdt a system accumulates all the impulses and stores them. We know it stores these impulses because in the absence of forces (ie. F=0), dp/dt = F = 0, so p does not change.

AM
 

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