Numbers with distinct digits from 1000-9999

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The discussion revolves around counting the numbers with distinct digits in the range from 1000 to 9999, specifically focusing on both general distinct digit numbers and those that are odd.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Problem interpretation

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  • Participants explore the counting of distinct digit numbers, questioning the assumptions made regarding the placement of odd digits and the implications for the first digit.

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There is a mix of agreement and correction among participants regarding the calculations for odd numbers. Some participants have provided alternative calculations and reasoning, while others have pointed out errors in the assumptions about digit placement.

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Participants are navigating constraints related to the placement of digits, particularly the requirement that the first digit cannot be zero and that only the last digit needs to be odd for the number to be classified as odd.

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Homework Statement



A) how many numbers have distinct digits from 1000 to 9999?

B) how many odd numbers have distinct digits from 1000 to 9999?





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a) the first place value has choices from 1-9, the second has choices from 0-9 but one number was used in the first place value so it has 9 choices, third place has 8 choices and fourth place has 7 choices so

9*9*8*7 numbers = 4536 numbers with distinct digits

b)

the available digits are 1,3,5,7,9

so first place has 5 choices, second has 4, third has 3, fourth has 2

so 5*4*3*2 numbers = 120 odd numbers with distinct digits.

that question seemed a little too easy so that's why I am posting it.
 
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Part (a) is correct, but (b) is not. You have solved the case where each digit of the number is odd, however, the question asks for odd numbers, which means only the last digit will be odd.
 
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Infinitum said:
Part (a) is correct, but (b) is not. You have solved the case where each digit of the number is odd, however, the question asks for odd numbers, which means only the last digit will be odd.

ah okay, that makes

sense so 9*9*8*5 numbers = 3240 numbers with distinct digits that are odd.
 
Not quite. You already decided to reserve an odd digit for the units place, and you cannot have zero in the first digit. How many possibilities does that leave for the first digit? Apply the argument further to the second and third digits.
 
so first will have 8 choices, second will have 8 because there's the reserved digit and the digit used in the first place but now zero is available, so third will have 7 and the fourth has 5

8*8*7*5 = 2240 numbers
 
Yep, that's it! :approve:
 

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