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So far it looks like Obama is out "Joe"ing McCain.
This looks very real. I suspect that it will be seen as quite effective.
This looks very real. I suspect that it will be seen as quite effective.
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The discussion revolves around Barack Obama's 30-minute televised message during his campaign, focusing on its effectiveness, presentation style, and public reception. Participants express their opinions on the nature of the message, comparisons to other political communications, and the broader implications for the election. The conversation includes elements of political analysis, personal impressions, and reactions to media coverage.
Participants express a mix of admiration and skepticism regarding Obama's message. While some find it impressive and a positive change, others critique its content and the potential for unrealistic expectations. There is no clear consensus on the overall effectiveness or implications of the message.
Some participants note the focus on different voter demographics and the potential impact of educational background on the reception of the message. There are also references to the historical context of televised political messages, which may influence interpretations of Obama's approach.
Readers interested in political communication, campaign strategies, and public reception of political messages may find this discussion relevant.
Ivan Seeking said:No fair! I have to wait almost three more hours.
Also, it is an inspired political message of hope and change, not an informercial.![]()
Evo said:Wow, just wow. That was awesome. Not an infomercial at all. I was very impressed.
LightbulbSun said:Where was this televised?
LowlyPion said:All major networks except ABC.
LightbulbSun said:Does anyone have a video link?
LowlyPion said:I think it was an outstanding job. Propaganda to be sure but not the ham-handed McCain/Far Right bludgeoning that has characterized their efforts this cycle.
mgb_phys said:Because politicians that are expert at propaganda have always turned out well .
At least Leni Riefenstahl did good camera work!
Yeah!Evo said:Wow, just wow. That was awesome. Not an infomercial at all. I was very impressed.
I think he will try - very hard, and that's all we can expect.mgb_phys said:Ok - but everbody is getting a little over the top about this guy, if he turns out not to be able to walk on water people are going to be very disappointed.
mgb_phys said:Ok - but everbody is getting a little over the top about this guy, if he turns out not to be able to walk on water people are going to be very dissapointed.
edward said:Fox keeps comparing it to the Ross Perot spots. Historically Ike did the same thing in 1952.
When the recorded presentation ended in my time zone on CBS, it went directly to a live Obama rally in a packed stadium in Florida. Very impessive.
mgb_phys said:Because politicians that are expert at propaganda have always turned out well .
At least Leni Riefenstahl did good camera work!
mgb_phys said:Ok - but everbody is getting a little over the top about this guy, if he turns out not to be able to walk on water people are going to be very dissapointed.
mathwonk said:to be quite honest, i was very disappointed by obama's message tonight. it seems he feels he has sewn up the votes of intelligent people and was going now after the votes of idiots. it leaves me feeling bad, but nowhere near as bad as the unrelentingly offensive campaign of mccain palin.
The contrast is profound. Obama is positive, McCain is negative.Throw the flag against: John McCain.
Call: Unsportsmanlike conduct.
What happened: "No one will delay the World Series game with an infomercial when I'm president," the Republican presidential nominee told a crowd Tuesday in Hershey, Pa.
Democratic rival Barack Obama bought the 8-8:30 p.m. slot on Fox and other major networks Wednesday night to air a campaign pitch. The first pitch of the World Series game, the resumption of rain-delayed Game 5, was set for approximately 8:37 p.m. EDT, about nine minutes later than usual.
Why that's wrong: It's not unusual for World Series games to start after 8:30 p.m., and according to the Web site Politico, the Fox executive who's responsible for the Obama ad purchase said the infomercial was replacing only the pre-game show.
"Our first pitch for the World Series is usually around 8:30 anyway, so we didn't push back the game. It was really just about suspending the pre-game, you know, Joe Buck," said the account executive, Joe Coppola. "That's all we did."
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Astronuc said:Yesterday, Obama bought time on major networks for the 30 minute spot. Obama was on the Daily Show too.
McCain errantly criticized Obama for holding up the world series.
McCain is getting desperate. He knows his campaign is done. He has no credibility. He has no way to bring in the undecided voters. He offers nothing significantly different from George Bush's failed policies. The voters won't make the same mistake three times.Astronuc said:Obama floods the airwaves with prime-time TV sales pitch
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/227/story/54962.html
Yesterday, Obama bought time on major networks for the 30 minute spot. Obama was on the Daily Show too.
McCain errantly criticized Obama for holding up the world series.
Out of bounds! McCain's wrong on World Series delay
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/310/story/54952.html
The contrast is profound. Obama is positive, McCain is negative.
The US needs to go in the positive direction.
SticksandStones said:The voters won't make the same mistake three times.
http://www.boston.com/ae/tv/blog/2008/10/obama_infomerci.htmlBoston_Globe said:Obama infomercial ratings
Joanna Weiss October 30, 2008 10:28 AM
This just in from a Nielsen Co. press release about Barack Obama's infomercial:
* Overall, for the six networks that aired the program simultaneously, the spot had a household rating of 21.7% (meaning that 21.7 percent of all households watching television were tuned to the spot) in the top 56 local markets. In Boston, the rating was 25.7 -- meaning that just over a quarter of local households tuned in.
* In comparison, the final debate between the two presidential candidates received a 38.3 household rating in the top 56 local TV markets. The candidates’ first debate on September 26 received a 34.7 household rating in the top 55 markets; their second debate, on October 7, received a 42.0 household rating in those markets.
* The last presidential candidate to air a paid simulcast was Ross Perot in 1996, which received a national household rating of 16.8.
* Last night, the Baltimore market had the largest TV audience, with a household rating of 31.3, while the Portland (Oregon, not Maine) market had the lowest household rating: 14.2.