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The discussion centers on the implications of Obama's decision not to select Hillary Clinton as his vice presidential running mate, suggesting it may have weakened his campaign against McCain. The argument posits that Obama's failure to acknowledge the diverse support he garnered, particularly from women, has led to perceptions of him as a typical politician rather than a transformative leader. McCain's choice of Sarah Palin is viewed as a strategic move to appeal to disillusioned voters and revive themes of hope and change. The conversation critiques the dynamics of political image and how candidates balance experience with the need for a fresh narrative. Ultimately, the thread reflects on the challenges both candidates face in aligning their messages with voter expectations.
  • #31
House vote against bailout wounds McCain

Quite a blunder, IMO.

Analysis: House vote against bailout wounds McCain

The house always wins, gamblers are warned, and the U.S. House made John McCain pay Monday for his politically risky, high-profile involvement in a financial rescue plan that came crashing down, mainly at the hands of his fellow Republicans.

As recently as Monday morning, only minutes before the House's stunning vote, McCain suggested that his call for a White House summit meeting Thursday, and his visit with unhappy House Republicans that preceded it, had helped clear the way for the bill's passage.

On NBC's "Meet the Press" Sunday, top adviser Steve Schmidt said McCain managed "to help bring all of the parties to the table, including the House Republicans, whose votes were needed to pass this."

On Monday, only 65 of the House's 199 Republicans went along.

"This is something that all of us will swallow hard and go forward with," he (McCain) said Sunday.

He turned out to be wrong on Monday.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080929/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_bailout_4;_ylt=AmOq4oCPIWgq1ypWQj5b9M3Za7gF
 
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  • #32
GCT said:
Obama is a hypocrite

Care to elaborate on this point?
 
  • #33


Evo said:
Quite a blunder, IMO.



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080929/ap_on_el_pr/candidates_bailout_4;_ylt=AmOq4oCPIWgq1ypWQj5b9M3Za7gF
It seems his 'dash to Washington' has backfired spectacularly! Far from showing off his leadership skills he has shown both his leadership and communication skills, even within his own party, are non-existent.
 
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  • #34


Art said:
It seems his 'dash to Washington' has backfired spectacularly! Far from showing off his leadership skills he has shown both his leadership and communication skills, even within his own party, are non-existent.
Amazing that his ego left him that out of touch with reality. He had no clue what these people were planning or thinking.
 
  • #35
I thought this was interesting.

For McCain and Team, a Host of Ties to Gambling
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/28/us/politics/28gambling-web.html
Senator John McCain was on a roll. In a room reserved for high-stakes gamblers at the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut, he tossed $100 chips around a hot craps table. When the marathon session ended around 2:30 a.m., the Arizona senator and his entourage emerged with thousands of dollars in winnings.

A lifelong gambler, Mr. McCain takes risks, both on and off the craps table. He was throwing dice that night not long after his failed 2000 presidential bid, in which he was skewered by the Republican Party’s evangelical base, opponents of gambling. Mr. McCain was betting at a casino he oversaw as a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, and he was doing so with the lobbyist who represents that casino, according to three associates of Mr. McCain.

The visit had been arranged by the lobbyist, Scott Reed, who works for the Mashantucket Pequot, a tribe that has contributed heavily to Mr. McCain’s campaigns and built Foxwoods into the world’s second-largest casino. Joining them was Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s current campaign manager. Their night of good fortune epitomized not just Mr. McCain’s affection for gambling, but also the close relationship he has built with the gambling industry and its lobbyists during his 25-year career in Congress.

. . . .
Hmmmm. I have to wonder how much gets passed under the table. :rolleyes:

I'm sure the religous right can look the other way now that they have Palin.
 
  • #36
When a congressional sponsor and his entourage leave a a casino counting their "winnings" please expect a payoff. Casinos do not pay off for groups of visitors, unless they are somehow "predisposed" to winning.
 
  • #37
With the exception of fast tracking a few government deals for his millionaire AZ buddies, McCain has done nothing for this state.

In one outlandish deal he pulled off for local land speculator Donald Diamond, McCain wrote legislation that allowed Diamond to trade 360 acres of worthless land for 4,200 acres of BLM land in a prime location.

He helped Diamond secure the purchase of Ft Ord when it closed in California. The military post had a golf course that overlooked the ocean. Diamond made over $200,000,000 on the deal.

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/22/us/politics/22diamond.html
 
  • #38
McCain makes another Fool of himself accusing Obama of "phoning it in".

What has McCain being doing this past week of the financial crisis? Has he been in the senate? Has he been in Face to Face leadership, driving the Republicans? Noooooo. He's been on the phone talking to people he says.

He accuses Obama of phoning it in and that's all he's been doing.

As an interesting side note none of Arizona's delegation in the House voted for it. Only 4 of Texas 19 Republican Congressmen voted yea, leaving him not even as influential as a totally incompetent lame duck President.
 
  • #39
With money like that - I have to wonder about those off-shore bank accounts.

And I have to wonder if anything gets passed along to Cindy McCain or the family business.
 
  • #40
Yeah, so I think that the campaign suspension gambit showed that McCain is aware of and concerned about the hope of Americans, and the resounding failure of his intervention showed that he isn't entirely well-equipped to lead the country towards achieving those hopes.

Palin was definitely a cagey gamble on his part, though - in the end she will have either been a great asset or a great liability. (If she keeps blowing interviews and they have to continue keeping her away from the press, they're sunk; if she was to shape up and nail an interview or two, or do something else that shows deftness and acumen outside of the coaching and setpiece speeches, she'll be formidable.) But I think that picking her is more about understanding of the hopes of her fellow Creationist and Evangelical members of the Republican party; who are definitely Americans but I wouldn't say he was aiming at the hopes of Americans in general.
 
  • #41
NeoDevin said:
Care to elaborate on this point?

I mentioned this earlier on this thread ... his message of hope and change is that by electing him we are going to have the first African American president and by this we are taking a historic step toward better equality for all which is conducive to the future maturation of the US.

He is a hypocrite because by not picking Hilary he disregarded the fact that the same situation was at hand for women , if he had believed this message of equality in association with change then he needed to be the hero to make reality the dreams of many women.
 
  • #42
Obama's message of hope and change is "vote for me because I'm black", huh?

GCT I think you may be participating in electing as president the first straw man in history.
 
  • #43
GCT said:
I mentioned this earlier on this thread ... his message of hope and change is that by electing him we are going to have the first African American president and by this we are taking a historic step toward better equality for all which is conducive to the future maturation of the US.

Funny, I thought it was because he's a newcomer in Washington who wants to do things differently than they have been in the past and skip through the BS like partisanship, cronyism, etc.

Of course, if he will or not remains to be seen, but if you have sources where he says "Vote for me because I'm black." then I'd like to see them, because that's a pretty huge leap in logic.
 
  • #44
GCT said:
I mentioned this earlier on this thread ... his message of hope and change is that by electing him we are going to have the first African American president and by this we are taking a historic step toward better equality for all which is conducive to the future maturation of the US.
That's not Obama's message. That's a message from some in the media, which likes to mention 'first black', 'first hispanic', 'first woman', . . . . They are still hung up on race, ethnicity and gender.
 
  • #45
GCT said:
He is a hypocrite because by not picking Hilary he disregarded the fact that the same situation was at hand for women , if he had believed this message of equality in association with change then he needed to be the hero to make reality the dreams of many women.
Hypocrite? Why should he have saddled himself with a VP pick that repeatedly compared him unfavorably to McCain, and whose husband is STILL trying to scuttle his candidacy? The Clintons are venomous, and he was wise to avoid them. They both carry so much baggage that the Rove machine would constantly have Obama on the ropes trying to defend them. Picking her as VP would have been suicide.
 
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  • #46
McCain is Aware of and Concerned About the Hope of Americans

And the answer is Sarah Palin?

Can anyone still say that aloud with a straight face?
 

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