ODE Problem with boundary conditions

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The discussion focuses on solving the ordinary differential equation y'' - λy = 0 with boundary conditions y(0) = y(1) = 0. The user initially considers the case where λ is positive but realizes they should assume λ is negative, rewriting the equation as y'' + a^2y = 0. This leads to the general solution y(t) = c1.sin(at) + c2.cos(at), where c2 must equal zero due to the boundary condition at y(0). The user finds that the non-trivial solutions occur when a = nπ, resulting in λ = -(nπ)^2, and ultimately determines that c1 can be ±2 based on the normalization condition. The solution y(t) = ±2sin(nπt) satisfies the original boundary conditions and the integral constraint.
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Homework Statement


Solve:

y'' - λy = 0

where y(0)=y(1)=0, y=y(t)

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The Attempt at a Solution



Hi everyone,

This is part of a PDE question, I just need to solve this particular ODE. I know how to do it in the case for y'' + λy = 0, where you get the solution:

λ = (nπ)^2,
y = C.sin(nπt), C a constant

However, I don't know how to go about doing it for this case, other than getting the trivial zero solution of course. Am I correct in thinking I should rewrite it as:

y'' + (-λ)y = 0

and then solve as for the positive case?

I would be really grateful if you could please tell me if this is correct.
 
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In other words, you are assuming \lambdas< 0, right? Okay, how about setting \lambda= -\alpha^2 where \alpha is any non-zero real number?

What is the characteristic equation for y''+ \alpha^2y= 0. What characteristic roots do you get and what is the general solution?
 
Hi,

Thanks for your reply! So then I would have:

Assume λ<0

Let λ = -a^2, for some real, non-zero number a

Then

y'' + (a^2)y = 0

y(t) = c1.sin(at) + c2.cos(at)

y(0)=0, therefore c2 = 0

y(1)=0, therefore c1 = 0 (trivial solution)

or sin(a) = 0

a = n∏

so then λ = -(n∏)^2

So then y(t) = c1.sin(n∏t)



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Then one of the conditions I was given in the question was that

∫(y^2)dt = 2, with limits of integration 0 to 1

Integrating this out:

(c1)^2.∫[sin(n∏t)]^2.dt =2

so then (1/2)(c1)^2.∫(1-cos(n∏t))dt =2

which gives us:

(c1)^2 = 4

c1 = ±2

So then y(t) = c1.sin(n∏t), c1=±2


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I don't like that I've ended up with two possible values for c1, but this solution makes sense to me. Please could you tell me if I am correct?
 
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