Partial Differential Equation: a question about boundary conditions

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The discussion revolves around a linear first-order partial differential equation (PDE) and the selection of suitable boundary conditions. The original poster explores the implications of their boundary condition on the characteristic curves of the PDE.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Conceptual clarification

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  • The original poster attempts to determine if their function F(t) meets all characteristic curves based on their chosen boundary condition. Some participants question the nature of suitable boundary conditions and their compatibility with the differential equation.

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Participants are actively exploring the relationship between boundary conditions and characteristic curves. There is a focus on whether the specified boundary condition intersects each characteristic curve exactly once, with some guidance provided on the implications of this requirement.

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There is mention of the characteristic curves being hyperbolae with specific asymptotes, and the discussion includes considerations of how boundary conditions interact with these curves. The implications of the choice of function F(t) and its expression are also under examination.

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Consider the following linear first-order PDE
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Consider the following linear first-order PDE,

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Find the solution φ(x,y) by choosing a suitable boundary condition for the case f(x,y)=y and g(x,y)=x.

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The equation above is the PDE I have to solve and I denoted the following result by solving it.

φ(x,y)=F(t)=F(1/2 x^2 - 1/2 y^2)

So, I set the boundary condition as φ(2y, -y)=3y^2 and denoted the following result.

φ(x,y)=x^2 - y^2.

Here is my question. While I was solving the equation, I got F(t)=2t, where t=(3y^2)/2, but how do I know if this F(t) meets all the characteristic curves? Here, the characteristic curves are determined by t= x^2/2 - y^2/2 for each constant t.
 
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Unless you have a particular physical situation that you want to describe ”suitable” could be any boundary condition that is compatible with the differential equation.
 
Orodruin said:
Unless you have a particular physical situation that you want to describe ”suitable” could be any boundary condition that is compatible with the differential equation.
what I heard was the boundary conditions should meet all the characteristic curves only once. Is this one wrong?
 
Terrycho said:
what I heard was the boundary conditions should meet all the characteristic curves only once.
This is correct. This specifies a single value for each characteristic curve and the rest of the values on the curves are then given by a first order ODE with that single boundary condition.

Terrycho said:
Is this one wrong?
You tell me, does the curve on which you specified the values meet each characteristic once?
 
Orodruin said:
This is correct. This specifies a single value for each characteristic curve and the rest of the values on the curves are then given by a first-order ODE with that single boundary condition.You tell me, does the curve on which you specified the values meet each characteristic once?
I mean, this is another question of mine too. φ(x,y)=F(t)=F(x^2/2 - y^2/2 ), this is the general solution of the partial differential equation irrespective of the choice of the function F. Then, I set the boundary condition as φ(2y,-y)=3y^2. While doing this, I got F(t)=2t, where t=(3y^2)/2, but how do I know if this F(t) meets all the characteristic curves? Here, the characteristic curves are determined by t= x^2/2 - y^2/2 for each constant t.
 
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The characteristic curves are hyperbolae with asymptotes x + y = 0 and x - y = 0. For each t \neq 0 the corresponding hyperbola consists of two disjoint continuous curves.

If you specify a boundery condition on a straight line which is not one of the asymptotes, that line will intersect each part of each characteristic exactly once, as you may verify by solving ax + by = c and x^2 - y^2 = 2t simultaneously.
 
pasmith said:
The characteristic curves are hyperbolae with asymptotes x + y = 0 and x - y = 0. For each t \neq 0 the corresponding hyperbola consists of two disjoint continuous curves.

If you specify a boundery condition on a straight line which is not one of the asymptotes, that line will intersect each part of each characteristic exactly once, as you may verify by solving ax + by = c and x^2 - y^2 = 2t simultaneously.
So with that boundary condition I specified, F(t)=2t meets all the characteristic curves, which are the hyperbole, right?

Then how do you express F(t)=2t? Is it like y=2t, which is parallel to x-axis for each constant t?
 

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