OpAmp LM-324 Melting Due to ESD?

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the potential causes of failure in the OpAmp LM-324, specifically whether electrostatic discharge (ESD) can lead to the component melting. The context includes considerations of high voltage proximity and circuit protection strategies.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if ESD can not only destroy the OpAmp but also cause it to melt, particularly in the context of high voltage nearby.
  • Another participant suggests that ESD can render the OpAmp unable to withstand its normal low voltage supply, potentially leading to a short circuit under certain conditions.
  • A different participant notes that it is common for low voltage circuits to fail near high voltage and recommends using transorbs for protection, stating that this practice has prevented issues in their experience.
  • One participant introduces the concept of "latchup" or "SCR latchup" as a possible destructive phenomenon affecting the OpAmp, providing a reference for further reading.
  • A participant acknowledges the advice received and mentions the use of Transil diodes on inputs but indicates a need to also protect the power supply.
  • Another participant inquires about a photo of a device showing a voltage divider used in a regulation loop, indicating interest in practical examples.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express various viewpoints on the causes of the OpAmp failure, with no consensus reached on the specific mechanisms involved or the effectiveness of different protective measures.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes assumptions about circuit design and the specific conditions under which failures occur, which may not be fully articulated by all participants.

Who May Find This Useful

Electronics engineers, circuit designers, and hobbyists interested in OpAmp applications and protection strategies against ESD and high voltage interactions.

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Hi gents. In a rig several times an OpAmp LM-324 burns and melts (and support too ! ). The circuit works perfectly for many hours and suddently ... I must precise that high voltage ( -6 kV) is not very far. My question : is ESD able not only to destroy OpAmp but also to make it melting ?
 
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ESD can render it unable to withstand its normal low voltage supply.

What do you suppose happens when it becomes a dead short circuit across say a 5 volt 3 amp supply?
I don't know what you have, but there's the principle.
 
Don't know your exact circuit. But it is very common to have low voltage circuits burn around high voltage. We made it a standard practice to put transorbs to protect all the inputs and even the power input. We never have any problem since. We even tested to make sure the LV circuit survive in hv arc.
 
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Hi gents. In a rig several times an OpAmp LM-324 burns and melts (and support too ! ). The circuit works perfectly for many hours and suddently ... I must precise that high voltage ( -6 kV) is not very far. My question : is ESD able not only to destroy OpAmp but also to make it melting ?

Just to add to the others' comments. The destructive phenomenon is called "latchup" or "SCR latchup". Here is a wiki article about it, with pointers out to other reading:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Latchup

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Many thanks for your replies. I effectively used Transil diode on imput but not on power supply. I'll correct this.
 
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Has someone a photo of a real device where we can see the voltage divider used as entry to regulation loop ?
 

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