Opposite groups - show it is a group

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The problem involves demonstrating that a new operation defined on a group (G, \circ) results in another group (G, \star). The operation \star is defined such that a \star b = b \circ a for all elements a, b in G.

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  • Participants discuss the necessary conditions for (G, \star) to be a group, including associativity, identity, inverse, and closure. The original poster attempts to verify these properties and seeks confirmation on their reasoning.

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Some participants affirm the correctness of the original poster's reasoning regarding associativity and identity. There is a focus on the closure property, with guidance provided on how to demonstrate that the operation \star remains within the set G.

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The discussion includes verification of definitions and properties associated with group operations, emphasizing the need to ensure that the new operation adheres to group axioms.

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Homework Statement



Suppose [tex](G, \circ)[/tex] is a group. Define an operation [tex]\star[/tex] on [tex]G[/tex] by [tex]a \star b = b \circ a[/tex] for all [tex]a,b \in G[/tex]. Show that [tex](G,\star)[/tex] is a group.

The Attempt at a Solution



So, I have to show that [tex](G,\star)[/tex] satisfies the associativity, identity, inverse and closure conditions:

Associativity: Let a,b,c be elements in G.

[tex](a \star b) \star c = (b \circ a) \star c[/tex]

[tex]= c \circ (b \circ a) = (c \circ b) \circ a[/tex]

[tex]= a \star (b \star c)[/tex].

Identity: [tex](a \star e) = (e \circ a) = (a \circ e)=(e \star a) = a[/tex].

Inverse: y is an inverse of a then [tex](a \star y)= (y \circ a) = (y \star a) = e[/tex].

Are these correct so far??

And for the closure, do I just need to show that any element of [tex](G,\star)[/tex] is in [tex]G[/tex]? I know that [tex](a \star b)=(b \circ a)[/tex] and [tex](b \circ a) \in (G, \circ)[/tex] so is that all I need to say?
 
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ya, that's it.
 


Really? Even the explanation for the closure is correct?
 


Yes, [tex](a \star b)=(b \circ a)[/tex] and, because G is a group, [itex]\circ[/itex] is closed so that [itex]b\circ a\in G[/itex] for all a,b so [itex]a\star b\in G[/itex] for all a, b.
 

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