Optics - Find the refractive index

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SUMMARY

The discussion centers on calculating the refractive index of a spherical object when an object is placed at a distance R from the sphere, with the final image also formed at distance R on the opposite side. Participants utilize the refraction equation for spherical surfaces: $$\frac{\mu_2}{v}-\frac{\mu_1}{u}=\frac{\mu_2-\mu_1}{R}$$. The refractive index is ultimately determined to be 2 through the application of Snell's Law and the small-angle approximation. Participants emphasize the importance of ray tracing and the relationship between angles in solving the problem.

PREREQUISITES
  • Understanding of Snell's Law and its application in optics
  • Familiarity with the small-angle approximation in geometric optics
  • Knowledge of ray tracing techniques for spherical surfaces
  • Ability to manipulate equations involving refractive indices and image distances
NEXT STEPS
  • Study the derivation and applications of Snell's Law in various optical systems
  • Learn about the small-angle approximation and its implications in optics
  • Explore advanced ray tracing techniques for complex optical systems
  • Investigate the properties of spherical lenses and their refractive indices
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Students and educators in physics, optical engineers, and anyone involved in the study of geometric optics and lens design.

  • #31
ehild said:
The formula you used to find the image distance is derived from Snell's Law, using small-angle approximation. Was not it shown to you?
Yes, it was shown to me, I forgot about it. Thanks a lot ehild! :)
By the way, you get the same refractive index with your method if you solve the last equation correctly.
I still don't get the correct answer with that equation. I always end up with 0=-4. I feel there is some sign error in my last equation but I can't spot it. :frown:
 
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  • #32
\frac{1}{R}-\cfrac{\mu}{\cfrac{(4-\mu)R}{\mu-2}}=\frac{1-\mu}{-R}\rightarrow
1-\frac{\mu(\mu-2)}{4-\mu}=-1+\mu\rightarrow 2-\mu+\frac{\mu(2-\mu)}{4-\mu}=0 \rightarrow \left(2-\mu\right) \left(1+\frac{\mu}{4-\mu}\right)=0

2-μ can be factored out, and you get a product equal to zero. One of the factors must be zero. The second one can not. Never "simplify" an equation dividing by a term that contains the unknown!
 
  • #33
ehild said:
\frac{1}{R}-\cfrac{\mu}{\cfrac{(4-\mu)R}{\mu-2}}=\frac{1-\mu}{-R}\rightarrow
1-\frac{\mu(\mu-2)}{4-\mu}=-1+\mu\rightarrow 2-\mu+\frac{\mu(2-\mu)}{4-\mu}=0 \rightarrow \left(2-\mu\right) \left(1+\frac{\mu}{4-\mu}\right)=0

2-μ can be factored out, and you get a product equal to zero. One of the factors must be zero. The second one can not. Never "simplify" an equation dividing by a term that contains the unknown!



Thanks a lot ehild! I need to be more careful while solving the equations. Thanks. :)
 

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