Optics - Find the refractive index

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The discussion focuses on calculating the refractive index of a sphere given an object distance and final image distance. Participants utilize the refraction equation for spherical surfaces and apply Snell's Law, while also exploring ray tracing techniques to determine image locations. Confusion arises regarding the calculation of image distances and the application of small-angle approximations. Ultimately, the refractive index is determined to be 2, with emphasis on careful equation manipulation to avoid errors. The conversation highlights the importance of understanding the relationships between angles and distances in optics.
  • #31
ehild said:
The formula you used to find the image distance is derived from Snell's Law, using small-angle approximation. Was not it shown to you?
Yes, it was shown to me, I forgot about it. Thanks a lot ehild! :)
By the way, you get the same refractive index with your method if you solve the last equation correctly.
I still don't get the correct answer with that equation. I always end up with 0=-4. I feel there is some sign error in my last equation but I can't spot it. :frown:
 
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  • #32
\frac{1}{R}-\cfrac{\mu}{\cfrac{(4-\mu)R}{\mu-2}}=\frac{1-\mu}{-R}\rightarrow
1-\frac{\mu(\mu-2)}{4-\mu}=-1+\mu\rightarrow 2-\mu+\frac{\mu(2-\mu)}{4-\mu}=0 \rightarrow \left(2-\mu\right) \left(1+\frac{\mu}{4-\mu}\right)=0

2-μ can be factored out, and you get a product equal to zero. One of the factors must be zero. The second one can not. Never "simplify" an equation dividing by a term that contains the unknown!
 
  • #33
ehild said:
\frac{1}{R}-\cfrac{\mu}{\cfrac{(4-\mu)R}{\mu-2}}=\frac{1-\mu}{-R}\rightarrow
1-\frac{\mu(\mu-2)}{4-\mu}=-1+\mu\rightarrow 2-\mu+\frac{\mu(2-\mu)}{4-\mu}=0 \rightarrow \left(2-\mu\right) \left(1+\frac{\mu}{4-\mu}\right)=0

2-μ can be factored out, and you get a product equal to zero. One of the factors must be zero. The second one can not. Never "simplify" an equation dividing by a term that contains the unknown!



Thanks a lot ehild! I need to be more careful while solving the equations. Thanks. :)
 

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