Optics - Images with two convave mirrors

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Homework Help Overview

The problem involves two concave mirrors of equal focal length placed a distance apart, with a point source located midway between them. The objective is to determine the distance between the mirrors that results in a single image being formed.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the application of the mirror formula and the conditions under which images are formed by concave mirrors. There are attempts to derive the distance d based on the image distances calculated for both mirrors.

Discussion Status

Several interpretations of the problem are being explored, with participants questioning the validity of the original poster's calculations. Some suggest that the distance d should be 4f, while others indicate that 2f could also be a valid solution, leading to a productive exchange of ideas regarding the application of the mirror formula.

Contextual Notes

There is a mention of a discrepancy between the original poster's findings and the solutions provided in the textbook, which raises questions about the assumptions made in the problem setup.

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Homework Statement


Two concave mirrors of equal focal length f are placed a distance d apart in air. A point source is placed midway between the two mirrors. What should d be so as to get only a single image?


Homework Equations


Mirror formula (1/f = 1/u + 1/v)


The Attempt at a Solution



The image distance v1 of the first mirror is calculated using the mirror formula.
1/-f = -2/d + 1/v1
1/v1 = 2/d - 1/f
v1 = df/2f - d
Similarly the image distance v2 of the same object from the second mirror is
v2 = df/2f -d (distances measured from the pole of the second mirror)
The distance of the image formed by the second mirror from the pole of the first mirror is

v3 = d - v2
= d - df/2f -d
= df - d*2 / 2f - d

If the images formed by the two mirrors are to coincide

v1 = v3
df / 2f - d = df - d*2 / 2f - d
This leads to d =0 which is not possible. I would like to know where I have gone wrong. The answer given in the book is 2f and 4f.
 
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In a concave mirror, if you keep an object on the focus the image will be at infinity, and if you keep it at 2f, the image will be on the object i.e. at 2f. So d should be ...?
 


Yes in this case the answer should be 4f (i.e. 2f + 2f), and 2f should not be one of the solutions as given in the book. Would you also let me know in what way I have erred in applying the mirror formula to solve the problem. Thanks.
 


kihr said:
Yes in this case the answer should be 4f (i.e. 2f + 2f), and 2f should not be one of the solutions as given in the book. Would you also let me know in what way I have erred in applying the mirror formula to solve the problem. Thanks.
2f is also the correct answer. Because if you keep the object on the focus of the first mirror, the reflected rays from that mirror will be parallel. These parallel rays fall on the second mirror which reflect them back to the focus.
 


Thanks a lot.
 

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