Optimal Angle to Throw a Stone for Maximum Distance | Flying Away Stone

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The discussion revolves around determining the optimal angle to throw a stone so that it always moves away from the thrower. The context involves projectile motion and the relationship between angle, height, and distance.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants explore the relationship between the angle of projection and the trajectory of the stone, questioning how the angle affects whether the stone moves away or towards the thrower. There are attempts to derive conditions under which the stone maintains a distance from the thrower.

Discussion Status

Some participants have provided insights and mathematical expressions related to the problem, while others are clarifying the original question and exploring different interpretations. There is an ongoing exchange of ideas without a definitive consensus on the optimal angle.

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Participants are discussing the implications of various angles on the stone's trajectory, including specific cases like throwing at 90 degrees and 80 degrees, and the mathematical conditions for the stone's distance from the thrower.

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Homework Statement



At which angle we should throw the ball ,so it always flies away from you?

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Somewhere after the max height the velocity of the stone is tangent to the line joining with the starting point(you can look to the file).Let's say that angle of this line with the ground is [tex]\alpha[/tex] .So [tex]\frac{y}{x}=tan\alpha[/tex] .And i think that stone always goes away when [tex]\frac{mv^2}{R}\geq mgsin\alpha[/tex] .Here we can find everything except R.I don't know what to put in it.
 

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What exactly is the question word for word?
 
For example you throw throw the ball up at 90 degrees to ground.It reaches max height and comes back to you.If you throw,let's say,at 80 degrees.At max height it further to you than when it hits the ground.So at some time it went closer to you.
 
Write down x(t) and y(t) for the ball with yourself as the origin. Then the squared distance from you to the ball r(t)=x(t)^2+y(t)^2. If it's coming toward you, then r'(t)<0. So you don't want the expression r'(t)=0 to have any real roots. The problem reduces to showing under what conditions a certain quadratic has no real roots.
 
Great!Thanks Dick.I've found
[tex]sin^2\theta\leq\frac{8}{9}[/tex]
 
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Good job. That was fast! I underestimated you. I should have stopped with the first clue.
 
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Dick said:
Good job. That was fast!

I agree. Nicely done. :smile:
 

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