Orbital velocity and radius for satellite

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The discussion revolves around the placement of a geostationary satellite intended to observe the far side of the moon. Participants explore the necessary distance from the Earth's center and the orbital velocity required for such a satellite, considering the Earth and moon as a combined system.

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  • Participants discuss the concept of a geostationary satellite and question the feasibility of maintaining such an orbit while observing the far side of the moon. There are inquiries about the definition of the "far side" and whether it refers to the "dark side" of the moon. Some participants explore the implications of orbital mechanics, including the relationship between the satellite's orbit and the Earth-moon system's center of mass.

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The discussion is ongoing, with various interpretations of the problem being explored. Some participants have offered insights into the mechanics of satellite orbits, while others have raised doubts about the possibility of a geostationary orbit in this context. There is a suggestion to consider a different type of orbit, referred to as "seleno-stationary," which may align better with the original poster's intent.

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There is a lack of clarity regarding the calculations provided by the original poster, and participants are requesting more detailed information about the methods used to arrive at the orbital radius. The problem also involves assumptions about the Earth-moon system and the definitions of orbital terms.

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Homework Statement


A geostationary satellite is to be placed to view the far side of the moon. How far away should it be placed from the center of the Earth and what velocity should it travel in order to maintain its orbit? (Considering the moon and Earth as one entity and solve for the center of gravity, then determine the distance the satellite should be)

Mass of Earth: 5.97x10^24kg
Mass of moon: 7.349x10^22kg
Distance of moon to earth: 384,000,000 m
Center of gravity from earth: 4,669,513.807 m

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the orbital radius and it seems that it's not going to be on the far side of the moon (42,399,473.46 m)
 
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when you saying the far side of the moon you mean the so called "dark-side" of the moon? That is the side that we can't observe by no means with an observatory in the surface of the earth?

The center of the orbit of the sattelite will be the center of earth, the center of the moon, or the center of the system earth+moon?
 
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Frankly it doesn't sound like this is possible. A satellite can stay stationary over a specific point on earth by orbiting with a specific velocity and distance from the earth, ignoring the influence of the moon. Similarly a satellite can stay stationary over a specific point on the moon with a specific velocity and distance ignoring the influence of the Earth (which would be a greater error) and a satellite can even orbit at a specific velocity and distance from the joint center of mass of the Earth and moon but such a satellite would NOT stay stationary over a point on the moon.
 
yeah, the moon goes round the Earth once per month. So if we had a satellite that stayed exactly on the other side of the moon to us, the satellite would need to also go round the Earth once per month. And on the other hand, if we wanted the satellite to be geostationary, it would need to go round the Earth once per day (since the Earth takes one day to rotate). So it's not possible to have both.
 
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joemmonster said:

Homework Statement


A geostationary satellite is to be placed to view the far side of the moon. How far away should it be placed from the center of the Earth and what velocity should it travel in order to maintain its orbit? (Considering the moon and Earth as one entity and solve for the center of gravity, then determine the distance the satellite should be)

Mass of Earth: 5.97x10^24kg
Mass of moon: 7.349x10^22kg
Distance of moon to earth: 384,000,000 m
Center of gravity from earth: 4,669,513.807 m

Homework Equations


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The Attempt at a Solution


I calculated the orbital radius and it seems that it's not going to be on the far side of the moon (42,399,473.46 m)
It's not at all clear what you have done, except find the location of the c.o.m. of the earth-moon system.

Please provide all of your calculations.
 
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