Orientation distribution function

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around solving an optimization problem related to finding the effective elasticity tensor of a polycrystal made of cylindrical fibers, which follow a von Mises-Fisher distribution. Participants explore the necessary steps to modify a probability density function and apply orientation averaging to achieve this goal.

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Main Points Raised

  • The original poster describes the need to change the probability density in a specific equation to incorporate the von Mises-Fisher distribution and follow a series of steps to find the effective tensor.
  • Some participants express uncertainty about the complexity of the problem and seek clarification on what constitutes a solution.
  • One participant suggests that solutions could range from theoretical expressions to numerical algorithms, highlighting the need for a clear definition of what is being sought.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the nature of the solution or the best approach to tackle the optimization problem. There are differing levels of familiarity with the topic, leading to varied interpretations of the problem.

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There are unresolved questions regarding the specific requirements for a solution and the methods to be employed in the optimization process. The discussion reflects a range of assumptions and conditions that have not been fully articulated.

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Hi everybody,
i have a problem that i wanted to share with you
if we consider a polycrystal made of cylindrical fibers following a von mises-fisher distribution equation (17) in http://bit.do/vmisesfisher (called orientation distribution function of fibers) . i must change the probability density in equation (28) http://bit.do/e28 with the von mises-fisher than i must follow the steps listed in the article http://bit.do/effectivetensor1 , http://bit.do/effectivetensor2 , http://bit.do/effectivetensor3 so that by using orientation averaging, i find the effective (elasticity) tensor of the polycrystal
it s an optimization problem
arg min of the integral over rotation group of the von mises-fisher distribution multiplied by the distance between the effective tensor of the polycrystal (what we are looking for) and the one of a single cylindrical fiber (given).

if anyone could give ideas about how can i start solving this optimization problem to find the effective tensor of the polycrystal
.
thank you
 
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sorry Stephen i changed the links

i have a problem that i wanted to share with you
if we consider a polycrystal made of cylindrical fibers following a von mises-fisher distribution equation (17) in http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=786125Photo005.jpg (called orientation distribution function of fibers) . i must change the probability density in equation (28) http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=235923Photo.jpg with the von mises-fisher than i must follow the steps listed in the article http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=555305Photo001.jpg , http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=275307Photo002.jpg , http://www.hostingpics.net/viewer.php?id=664133Photo003.jpg so that by using orientation averaging, i find the effective (elasticity) tensor of the polycrystal
it s an optimization problem
arg min of the integral over rotation group of the von mises-fisher distribution multiplied by the distance between the effective tensor of the polycrystal (what we are looking for) and the one of a single cylindrical fiber (given).

if anyone could give ideas about how can i start solving this optimization problem to find the effective tensor of the polycrystal
.
thank you
 
I know nothing about this complicated looking problem. I'd be glad to discuss it with you. That will keep the thread alive while you can explain it to me! - and perhaps someone who knows the answer will chime in.

A fundamental question is "What do you consider a solution?" Even before defining whether a solution is a number, a function, a set, animal, vegetable or mineral, we have the question of how specifically it needs to be expressed.

The general problem (I think) is to find argmin...of something. A completely theoretical solution is: argmin ...of the thing = some function or expression expressed abstractly in terms of the variables in the problem. A completely numerical solution is a computer algorithm that produces a big file of numbers. in between these extremes you could have a solution that says if we consider a family of functions defined by some parameters then the answer is approximated by solving a certain system of equations where these parameters are the unknowns - and maybe you have use a computer algorithm to solve the equations numerically.
 

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