Oscillating, hanging spring-block system

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The problem involves a spring-block system where a mass is hung from a spring, causing it to stretch and subsequently oscillate after being pulled down and released. The objective is to determine the position of the mass after a specified time period.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to calculate the spring constant and angular frequency, expressing uncertainty about the next steps involving energy and position equations. Some participants question how to determine the amplitude of oscillation, while others confirm its value and discuss the phase constant.

Discussion Status

Participants are actively exploring the relationships between the parameters of the oscillating system. Guidance has been provided regarding the amplitude and phase constant, but there is no explicit consensus on the overall approach to solving for the position at the given time.

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The discussion includes assumptions about the system being frictionless and the initial conditions of the oscillation. There is also a focus on the definitions and calculations related to the spring constant and angular frequency.

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Homework Statement



A hanging spring stretches by 30.0 cm when an object of mass 500 g is hung on it at rest. We define its position as x = 0. The object is pulled down an additional 16.5 cm and released from rest to oscillate without friction. What is its position x at a moment 84.4 s later?


Homework Equations


Fs = -kx
Fs = mg

x(t) = Acos(ωt + ∅)

w = (k/m)1/2
w2 = k/m

T = 2∏/w

E = (1/2)kA2
E = (1/2)mv2 + (1/2)kx2

v = =- [ (k/m)(A2 - x2) ]1/2

The Attempt at a Solution


m = 0.5 kg

All I can do right off the bat is solve for k

Fs = (9.8 m/s2)(0.5kg) = 4.9N

4.9N = -kx

4.9N = (-k)(-0.3m)

k = 16.33 N/m

Now solve for ω ?
w = [ (16.33 N/m) / 0.5 kg ]1/2

ω = 5.7 s-1

Not sure where to go from here regarding energy and I'm afraid that if I plug into x(t) = Acos(ωt + ∅) it would be wrong?
 
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you know ω and t. Do you know how to find the amplitude-A?
 
is A 16.5 cm ?

so the problem is over if i use x(t) = Acos(ωt + ∅)
 
Color_of_Cyan said:
is A 16.5 cm ?

so the problem is over if i use x(t) = Acos(ωt + ∅)
Yes. (What will ∅ equal?)
 
i would have to guess and say that ∅ = 0
 
Color_of_Cyan said:
i would have to guess and say that ∅ = 0
Correct. (But you shouldn't have to guess!)
 

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