Oscillatory motion equation in sine function

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The discussion revolves around the equation y = A sin(kx - wt + pi/2) and its equivalence to other forms. Participants are exploring the relationships between sine and cosine functions in the context of oscillatory motion.

Discussion Character

  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • The original poster attempts to understand why their answer (d.) is incorrect and seeks clarification on the reasoning behind the correct answer (b.). They question the implications of shifting the phase and inverting the sine function.
  • Some participants provide hints related to the trigonometric identities involving sine and cosine, while others express confusion about the transformations and equivalences.
  • There is a discussion about the mathematical properties of cosine and sine functions, including the relationship between sin(x) and cos(x).

Discussion Status

Participants are actively engaging with the problem, offering hints and exploring different interpretations of the equations. Some guidance has been provided regarding the trigonometric identities, but there is no explicit consensus on the correctness of the answers presented.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the problem may involve both physics and mathematics, indicating a potential overlap in understanding the concepts involved. There is also mention of homework rules regarding the provision of complete answers.

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Homework Statement


The equation y = A sin(kx - wt + pi/2) is the same as
a. y = -A sin(kx - wt + pi/2)
b. y = A cos(kx - wt)
c. y = -A cos(kx - wt)
d. y = -A sin(kx - wt - pi/2)
e. y = A sin(kx - wt + (3pi)/2)

Homework Equations


  • y = A sin[(2pi)/lamda * x - (2pi)/period * t + (phase constant)]
  • sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x)

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempted answer was d., while the correct answer given was b.

I do not understand why d. is wrong, as after a left shift of pi (from the '-pi/2' in the phase constant) in the sine function, when the sign is inverted (given the '-' before A), the resulting y should be the same. No?

I do not get why b. is the correct answer, either. Even with the fact that sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x), wouldn't you get y = A cos(-kx + wt) then?Thanks in advance for your help! :smile:
 
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Here's an answer :wink:
 

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Nguyen Son said:
Here's an answer :wink:
OK, perhaps the long way around.
Realize sin(a+ pi/2) = cos(a)
a = kx-wt
 
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I did that because he/she knows that sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x), like he/she said above, but he/she didn't know how to solve this problem with sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x), so I did in that way :D
 
Nguyen Son said:
I did that because he/she knows that sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x), like he/she said above, but he/she didn't know how to solve this problem with sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x), so I did in that way :D
Sorry, I thought your post was the OP's answer. But you should not post complete answers, just hints.
 
grangr said:

Homework Statement


The equation y = A sin(kx - wt + pi/2) is the same as
a. y = -A sin(kx - wt + pi/2)
b. y = A cos(kx - wt)
c. y = -A cos(kx - wt)
d. y = -A sin(kx - wt - pi/2)
e. y = A sin(kx - wt + (3pi)/2)

Homework Equations


  • y = A sin[(2pi)/lamda * x - (2pi)/period * t + (phase constant)]
  • sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x)

The Attempt at a Solution


My attempted answer was d., while the correct answer given was b.

I do not understand why d. is wrong, as after a left shift of pi (from the '-pi/2' in the phase constant) in the sine function, when the sign is inverted (given the '-' before A), the resulting y should be the same. No?

I do not get why b. is the correct answer, either. Even with the fact that sin(x) = cos(pi/2 - x), wouldn't you get y = A cos(-kx + wt) then?Thanks in advance for your help! :smile:

##\cos(\theta) = \sin(\theta + \frac{\pi}{2}) = - \sin(\theta - \frac{\pi}{2})##

So, both b) and d) are correct.
 
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Thank you all, Nguyen Son, rude man, and Perok for your explanation. It is much clearer now. :partytime: (And it's good to know that both b) and d) are correct! :wink:)

Indeed, I totally did not recall that cos(x) = cos(-x), or that cos(θ)=sin[θ+(π/2)]. :doh: As it turns out, it wasn't a physics problem to me, but more of a math problem... :sorry:
 

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