Osmotic Pressure vs Vapor Pressure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the relationship between osmotic pressure and vapor pressure, specifically whether calculating osmotic pressure can yield the correct vapor pressure when converted to mmHg. The scope includes theoretical considerations and problem-solving approaches related to these two concepts in physical chemistry.

Discussion Character

  • Debate/contested
  • Technical explanation

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants question whether calculating osmotic pressure and converting it to mmHg would yield the correct vapor pressure.
  • One participant believes that the approach taken is correct but does not provide a clear rationale for this belief.
  • Another participant asserts that osmotic pressure and vapor pressure are separate phenomena, suggesting that the two should not be conflated.
  • A participant describes their process of calculating osmotic pressure using the formula PI=iMRT and converting the result from ATM to mmHg, but does not clarify why this method is appropriate for finding vapor pressure.
  • There is a suggestion to consider Henry's and Raoult's laws, indicating that these might provide relevant context or frameworks for understanding the relationship between the two pressures.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally do not agree on the validity of using osmotic pressure calculations to determine vapor pressure, with multiple competing views on the relationship between the two concepts remaining unresolved.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include a lack of clarity on the assumptions underlying the calculations and the definitions of the terms involved. The discussion does not resolve the mathematical or conceptual connections between osmotic pressure and vapor pressure.

Michael Noto
If I were asked to calculate the vapor pressure, and I calculated the osmotic pressure and converted it to mmHg, Would I get the right answer?
 
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Michael Noto said:
If I were asked to calculate the vapor pressure, and I calculated the osmotic pressure and converted it to mmHg, Would I get the right answer?

I believe so, but l
 
Not like these things are completely unrelated, but in general no, these are separate phenomena.

Can you elaborate on why you think what you did is correct?
 
Borek said:
Not like these things are completely unrelated, but in general no, these are separate phenomena.

Can you elaborate on why you think what you did is correct?
Basically I was given some data about a solution and was asked to find the Vapor Pressure in mmHG. After calculating the Molarity, I had all of the pieces to solve for PI=iMRT so I did that then converted the answer in ATM to mmHG.
 
That's what you did, not why you think it is correct.

Calculating something just because you have data to do so, when you are asked to calculate something else, is rarely a correct approach to solving problems.
 
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Maybe you want to look up Henry's and Raoult's laws.
 
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