Overhead transmission line protection failure

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the failure of protection mechanisms for a 13.8 kV overhead transmission line (OHTL) that fell to the ground, resulting in a significant incident involving the death of camels in Saudi Arabia. Participants explore potential reasons for the failure of Earth Fault Relays (EFR) and Over Current Relays (OCR) to operate in this scenario, considering factors such as environmental conditions and relay settings.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Technical explanation, Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants suggest that the EFR may not have triggered due to the line landing on dry sand or dirt, which could prevent a good ground fault from being detected.
  • Others argue that if both wires fell together, the current might have appeared differential, leading to the EFR not tripping.
  • One participant notes that high soil resistance could prevent both relays from sensing the downed lines, contributing to the incident.
  • It is mentioned that the ground potential rise near the lines could have caused harm to the animals due to large potential differences between their legs.
  • Another point raised is that non-directional ground relays may not operate if their settings are above the current unbalance threshold, which is typically set higher to avoid tripping during high demand periods.
  • A participant highlights that transmission systems can be treated as balanced circuits, allowing for lower settings to operate for faults in dry terrain or high ground impedance conditions.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express multiple competing views regarding the reasons for the protection failure, and the discussion remains unresolved with no consensus reached on the specific causes.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the dependence on environmental conditions, the specific settings of the relays, and the nature of the fault current in the described scenario.

Who May Find This Useful

Electrical engineers, safety professionals, and those interested in power transmission system protection and fault analysis may find this discussion relevant.

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Hello everyone ,

I am still new to the protection field so i would appreciate if you can help me with analysis of the following,

A 13.8 Kv OHTL was cut and fell on ground , the cable was still live although being protected by Earth fault relays and Over current relays(Instantaneous and Time delay) , but for some reason they failed to operate.

This incident caused death of over 30 camels in Saudi Arabia.

This line was located in the desert and the marks on the sand showed that it stayed on ground for longer than one day.

What do you think could possibly cause EFR and OCR not to operate?

All opinions are much appreciated.

Thank you in advance
 
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The Earth ground fault will only trigger if there is a good ground fault, so if the wires landed on dry sand or dirt, the GFCI may not trip. Also, if both wires fell together, then the current might have looked differential, and again the GFCI would not trip.
 
I agree with berkeman. High resistance of the soil(sand) could cause both relays to not sense the downed lines. The gound potential rise near the lines would cause the animals to be killed. With there long steps, there would be a large potential difference between the legs.
 
Thanks for the replies , that was really helpful.
 
Also:

Non directional ground relays may operate is the setting is below the current unbalance setting. Normally they set above to prevent inadvertent tripping during high demand period, typical in feeder circuits fro their neutral protection.

Tansmission system are trated as a balance circuit which can be set much lower in percentage terms to feeder circuit rating and often can be set to operate for broken conductor or single line to groundf ault with very low fault current on dry terrain or high ground impedance ... abnormal case for setting describe above.
 
good analysis
but
what are the suggested solutions for this problem in desert ?
 

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