Package Drop Time Calculation for Ascending Helicopter

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The problem involves a helicopter ascending vertically at a speed of 5.10 m/s, from which a package is dropped at a height of 115 m. The objective is to determine the time it takes for the package to reach the ground.

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  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss the use of kinematic equations to model the motion of the package after it is dropped. There are questions about the meanings of variables in the equations, particularly regarding initial velocity and gravitational acceleration.

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Some participants have provided guidance on the kinematic equations and the importance of defining positive and negative directions in the context of the problem. There is ongoing exploration of the correct setup for the equation to solve for time, with participants questioning the values and signs used in their calculations.

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Participants are navigating through the implications of initial conditions and the direction of motion, with some confusion about the signs in the equations. There is a recognition that the package's downward motion must be treated in relation to the upward motion of the helicopter.

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Homework Statement

A helicopter is ascending vertically with a speed of 5.10 m/s. At a height of 115m above the Earth, a package is dropped from a window. How much time does it take for the package to reach the ground? [Hint: v_0 for the package equals the speed of the helicopter.]

Homework Equations


x=x_0 + v_0t+ (1/2)at^2

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I have no idea.
 
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the kinematic equation


y=y_0 +ut - \frac{1}{2}gt^2


will help you.
 
rock.freak667 said:
the kinematic equation


y=y_0 +ut - \frac{1}{2}gt^2


will help you.



So what does "u" stand for and does "g" stand for gravity?
 
halbe1 said:
So what does "u" stand for and does "g" stand for gravity?

u is the initial velocity and g is acceleration due to gravity
 
The "u" stands for the initial vertical velocity (or in the case of not being directly straight up... the vertical component of the initial velocity).

The "g" does stand for the gravitational constant of the Earth.

It will probably help if you just draw a cartesian grid, label your x and y, then decide where you want the positive and negative values to be.

For example, if you want to make "up" the positive y, and "right" the positive x, and consider the x-axis itself to be the Earth... Then then helicopter is traveling at a positive vertical velocity relative to that of gravity which would be in the negative direction since it is always toward Earth and you decided the x-axis was earth.

Your Ys are the displacement distances...

Plug in the values, finish the math and you are done. It's a good idea to ALWAYS draw your word problems out.


I hope that helped.
 
Alright but what do I do once I get to 0=-115+5.10t+4.9t^2?
 
What are you looking for? Is what you are looking for one of the variables you have left in the equation?

If so, solve the equation.

What does the variable you show there stand for? Is that what you are looking for?
 
Yea, I'm trying to get t in seconds. I tried factoring out a t and then getting two answers for t, t=0 and t=-113. So I know neither of those are right.
 
You box is traveling down... not up... and if you made toward the Earth be the negative direction, then you have to put a negative direction as your final displacement... which will give you positive 115 when you move it to the other side of the equation before you plug it into the quadratic formula...

That should work... it looks like you got the initial velocity and acceleration values right.
 
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Wait no... the formula is + 1/2 gt^2... and your gravity (g is basically the same for the y direction as a is in the x direction of your initial equation) is in the negative direction... so you would end up with an equation 0=115 + 5.1t - 4.9t^2...

Then you'll have the right answer.
 
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I got 5.40 is that right?
 
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