Paleo magnetism 30,000 years ago to today

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The discussion revolves around the availability and control of data related to Earth's magnetism from 30,000 years ago to the present. Participants explore various sources of paleomagnetic data and the feasibility of controlling magnetic forces.

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Main Points Raised

  • One participant inquires about finding data for Earth's magnetism over the last 30,000 years and questions the possibility of controlling magnetic forces.
  • Another participant provides a link to a NOAA database for paleomagnetic data.
  • It is noted that while the Earth's magnetic field is weak and can be overridden locally, controlling it on a larger scale is not feasible with current technology.
  • Participants discuss the types of data being sought, including polar wandering, variations in field strength, and orientation in sediments.
  • One participant mentions that the IAGA database is outdated and suggests a more current database that includes both sedimentary analyses and archeomagnetic data.
  • Concerns are raised about the quality and availability of paleomagnetic data from South America, indicating it is poorly sampled and often of low quality.
  • A participant expresses gratitude for the confirmation of their concerns regarding data availability in South America.
  • Another participant notes that the data from 15,000 to 10,000 years ago appears to be particularly sparse.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express varying opinions on the availability and quality of paleomagnetic data, particularly regarding South America. There is no consensus on the feasibility of controlling magnetic forces or the sufficiency of the available data.

Contextual Notes

Limitations include the outdated nature of some databases, the sparsity of data from specific geographic regions, and the challenges in obtaining directional data from certain sources.

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how can i find data for Earth magnetism for the period 30,000 years to today, is it possible to control magnetism forces
thanks
 
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While the magnetic field is relatively weak - you can override it with a small magnet, for example - it is global in extent and that represents the expenditure of a large amount of energy. No plausible means of controlling magnetic forces on other than a very small, local level exist, nor could be envisaged in a foreseeable future.
 
What sort of data are you seeking? Polar wandering? Variations in field strength? Orientation in recent sediments?
 
Bystander said:
What sort of data are you seeking? Polar wandering? Variations in field strength? Orientation in recent sediments?
mostly variation of Earth magnetic field during that period
 
Local strength (specific geographic locations), or "overall."
 
south America
 
The IAGA database available through NOAA is out-dated, so don't use it.
The most up-to-date version of the database for your time of interest can be found here http://geomagia.gfz-potsdam.de/
There are two databases, one based on sedimentary analyses, which yields only inclination and relative intensity variations, but of high resolution.
The other, is the archeomagnetic and volcanic database, which has absolute measures of field intensity, but these are only spot readings and often no directional data are available.

There are also global models, which combine the two databases to estimate global variations. These are limited to the last 10,000 years (due to data availability) and inevitably involve smoothing.

On a practical note. South America is a relatively poorly sampled region for paleomagnetism, for a number of reasons. So the data from this region is sparse and often of low quality. I think the S. America data only go back a few thousand years.

Hope this helps.
 
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geo101 said:
On a practical note. South America is a relatively poorly sampled region for paleomagnetism
Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
 
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many thanks ,it look better now but after a very fast reading period from 15,000 to 10,000 seem the poor child
 

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