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The discussion centers on the impact of Sarah Palin's selection as the vice-presidential candidate for John McCain's campaign. Initial reactions highlighted her appeal to women, but the conversation quickly shifted to criticisms of her qualifications and the controversies surrounding her, such as her daughter's pregnancy and various ethical issues. Despite these controversies, many supporters remained loyal, attributing her popularity to her charisma and ability to connect with conservative values. Critics argue that her lack of substantial experience and knowledge in complex political matters undermines her candidacy. The dialogue also touches on the broader implications of the election process, suggesting that it has devolved into a popularity contest rather than a serious evaluation of candidates' qualifications and policies. Participants express frustration over the perceived ignorance of voters who support candidates based on superficial traits rather than substantive issues, leading to concerns about the future of democracy and informed decision-making in elections.
  • #541
Palin said:
"This is not a man who sees America like you and I see America," she said.

This is apparently the code of a renewed appeal to Racism when Palin is delivering these lines to mostly all white audiences.

I think these strategists are despicable practicing the politics of division at a time when the nation as a whole will be making sacrifices. McCain should be ashamed that he has allowed his ambition to outstrip whatever his sense of honor once may have been.
 
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  • #542
Obama should call his campaign bus or plane the "Honor-Mobile".
 
  • #543
Palin persists in spreading the lie. I think this is a really bad strategy.
AP said:
Palin defends terrorist comment against Obama
By JIM KUHNHENN Associated Press Writer

Oct 5th, 2008 | LONG BEACH, Calif. -- Sarah Palin is defending her attack on Democratic presidential nominee Barack Obama after accusing him of "palling around with terrorists."

The Republican vice presidential nominee on Sunday said it was legitimate to raise Obama's association with 1960s radical Bill Ayers. Ayers and Obama are acquainted, but the charge that they "pal around" is unsubstantiated.

"The comments are about an association that has been known but hasn't been talked about," she said. "It's important to talk about how Barack Obama kicked off his political career in the guy's living room."
 
  • #544
And imagine that these were the same people yipping about using the phrase "lipstick on a pig".
 
  • #545
Bush/Palin

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=svp64jfGZEQ
 
  • #546
LowlyPion said:
Palin persists in spreading the lie. I think this is a really bad strategy.

It is a great strategy is you want Obama to win. I hope they stick with it.

It's the economy, stupid!
- Bill Clinton.
 
  • #547
I keep thinking of this. ...can't imagine why.
 
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  • #548
Something I haven't seen mentioned here yet was the blunder Palin made when she was asked about her foreign affairs credentials.

She claimed to have had a meeting with the UK's American ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald in July but following a complaint from Sir Nigel, as the meeting never took place, she was forced to apologise to him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...sh-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html
 
  • #549
Art said:
Something I haven't seen mentioned here yet was the blunder Palin made when she was asked about her foreign affairs credentials.

She claimed to have had a meeting with the UK's American ambassador Sir Nigel Sheinwald in July but following a complaint from Sir Nigel, as the meeting never took place, she was forced to apologise to him.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/wor...sh-ambassador-took-place-TV-debate-looms.html
So they took the entire guest list and claimed she had a meeting with all of them? What a fraud!
 
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  • #551
7 State Employees will cooperate with the investigation.
Apparently Todd is still refusing to speak to the Legislative Council, attempting to confuse the public perception by agreeing to be interviewed by the Executive Ethics Committee - Palin appointees - that have been floated as a scheme to forestall the Legislative Council from issuing a report prior to the election.

http://www.adn.com/troopergate/story/546971.html

If there is nothing to hide, why are they hiding?
 
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  • #552
Because ... where there's smoke there is a good chance fire is there also.

Something occurred to me recently, McCain cheated on his wife and Palin has been -according to a less than credible source, the National Enquirer - is said to have cheated on her hubby. Knowing how hard they must be trying- why haven't they tried to smear Obama in that way. Is there nothing for them to uncover?

I know this is off topic. I should probably have started this as a thread.

McCain:
http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/16176.html

http://divorcesupport.about.com/b/2008/08/24/mccains-adultery.htm

http://www.nolanchart.com/article2957.html

Palin:

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-77788

http://thepalinreport.com/2008/09/05/sarah-palin-adultery-scandal-affair-with-brad-hanson/

http://www.heartlessandbrainless.com/2008/09/sarah-palin-adultery-edition.html

Obama:
All I've really found are blogs.:

http://chicagoargus.blogspot.com/2008/04/adultery-lesbian-tawdry-sex-oh-wait.html

http://www.redding.com/news/2008/feb/22/who-wears-the-pants-in-democratic-race/
 
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  • #553
St.Petersburg_Times said:
October 06, 2008
Press kept under a watchful eye

CLEARWATER -- Constantly under the watchful eyes of security, the media wasn't permitted to wander around inside Coachman Park to talk to Sarah Palin supporters. When reporters tried to leave the designated press area and head toward the bleachers where the crowd was seated, an escort would dart out of nowhere and confront him or her and say, "Can I help you?'' and turn the person around.
When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday.
-- Times staff writer Eileen Schulte
http://blogs.tampabay.com/breakingnews/2008/10/under-the-watch.html

They act like fascists.
 
  • #554
If proximity to former political radicals makes Obama a terrorist, then might we wonder about a person whose husband wanted to secede from the Union? At the least, we might infer that she doesn't really care about being an American either way. Apparently they have a problem with the Constitution. Why else would she marry someone who doesn't want a Constitution? Maybe their church has a better one.

And why would a person WANT to live so close to the communists, instead of the heartland? Why Vodka over apple pie? And why is it that she seems to like red so much? Hmmmmm. And why does she intend to illegally expand the powers of the VP, like Cheney did. Hmmmmm. Maybe she CAN see Russia from her house.

It will be intersting to see where McCain wants to draw the line.
 
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  • #555
Palin said:
Say it ain't so, Joe, there you go again pointing backwards again. You preferenced your whole comment with the Bush administration. Now doggone it, let's look ahead and tell Americans what we have to plan to do for them in the future.

Odd isn't it that after delivering that cutsie sound bite at the debate that Palin is now targeting imagined associations that Obama would have had years ago, associations that he disavows.

And instead of focusing on plans for the future as they say they have an interest, they are burrowing into a slander campaign that shows little regard for the Truth and strives only to divide, rather than inform.
 
  • #556
Interesting piece.

Daley: Don't tar Obama for Ayers
http://www.swamppolitics.com/news/politics/blog/2008/04/daley_dont_tar_obama_for_ayers.html
by Mike Dorning and Rick Pearson
Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, whose father was famously not so sympathetic to anti-war protesters, is coming to the defense of Barack Obama for his friendship with former Weather Underground member Bill Ayers.

Daley accused Hillary Clinton and other critics of Obama's association with Ayers of "re-fighting 40 year old battles." And the mayor noted that he, too "know(s) Bill Ayers" and has "worked with" Ayers on city education reforms.

The mayor released the following statement:

There are a lot of reasons that Americans are angry about Washington politics. And one more example is the way Senator Obama’s opponents are playing guilt-by-association, tarring him because he happens to know Bill Ayers.

I also know Bill Ayers. He worked with me in shaping our now nationally-renowned school reform program. He is a nationally-recognized distinguished professor of education at the University of Illinois/Chicago and a valued member of the Chicago community.

I don’t condone what he did 40 years ago but I remember that period well. It was a difficult time, but those days are long over. I believe we have too many challenges in Chicago and our country to keep re-fighting 40 year old battles.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Ayers
Whatever his past, William Ayers is now a professor in the College of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago, holding the honor of Distinguished Professor. Seems like he turned himself around and is now a respectable citizen.

Isn't that what America is all about?
 
  • #557
what about Palin's associations with Alaska secessionists & that Kenyan witch doctor?
 
  • #558
Let Alaska secede. But they have to pay the Federal Government fair market value for the real property and minerals. Let's say $1 trillion, or maybe $5 trillion. Let Alaska raise its own defense forces. :rolleyes:


Meanwhile - Sarah’s Pompom Palaver - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/05/opinion/05dowd.html
. . . .
With her pompom patois and sing-songy jingoism, Palin can bridge contradictory ideas that lead nowhere: One minute she promises to get “greater oversight” by government; the next, she lectures: “Government, you know, you’re not always a solution. In fact, too often you’re the problem.”

Talking at the debate about how she would “positively affect the impacts” of the climate change for which she’s loath to acknowledge human culpability, she did a dizzying verbal loop-de-loop: “With the impacts of climate change, what we can do about that, as governor, I was the first governor to form a climate change subcabinet to start dealing with the impacts.” That was, miraculously, richer with content than an answer she gave Katie Couric: “You know, there are man’s activities that can be contributed to the issues that we’re dealing with now, with these impacts.”

At another point, she channeled Alicia Silverstone debating in “Clueless,” asserting, “Nuclear weaponry, of course, would be the be-all, end-all of just too many people in too many parts of our planet.” (Mostly the end-all.)

A political jukebox, she drowned out Biden’s specifics, offering lifestyle as substance. “In the middle class of America, which is where Todd and I have been, you know, all our lives,” she said, making the middle class sound like it has its own ZIP code, superior to 90210 because “real” rules.

Sometimes, her sentences have a Yoda-like — “When 900 years old you reach, look as good you will not” — splendor. When she was asked by Couric if she’d ever negotiated with the Russians, the governor replied that when Putin “rears his head” he is headed for Alaska. Then she uttered yet another sentence that defies diagramming: “It is from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there.”
. . . .
:smile:
 
  • #559
This is scary post #553
October 06, 2008
Press kept under a watchful eye
…When one reporter asked an escort, who would not give her name, why the press wasn't allowed to mingle, she said that in the past, negative things had been written. The campaign wanted to avoid that possibility Monday …

We have a glimpse into the McCain administration. If you found out or knew Bush, especially Cheny were too opaque and secretive – McCain/Palin will hardly be more transparent. In history, what sort of regimes employed those kind of tactics and how did those it affect the population, one class/caste wise and/or in terms of their freedoms (If they had any.)

I could put up links to most recently –Kenya, Nigeria – in the past: the former USSR, China, Columbia – Noam Chomsky’s ‘Rouge State’ ect.

LowlyPion:
They act like fascists.

Yeah, disturbing what may happen.
 
  • #560
fourier jr said:
what about Palin's associations with Alaska secessionists & that Kenyan witch doctor?

Keith Oberman mentioned the Reverend Muthee last night saying what do you call someone that goes to a town they are having traffic accidents and camps out and overruns a woman's home and calls her a witch and drives her out of town as a demon for causing those accidents? Sounds like the woman was surely terrorized by such illegality. And Muthee was in his own domestic Kenya. Doesn't that make him a "Domestic Terrorist" in Kenya? And there is that video of Muthee laying his hands on Palin and Praying for her to become Governor?

That makes Palin associating then not so long ago with a known Domestic Terrorist.
 
  • #561
How can a Presidential candidate that is taking steps to avoid scrutiny from the press be trusted? If Sarah Palin's opinions are so harmful that she can't be trusted to speak, how can they ask the American public to place her in the position of Vice-president?
 
  • #562
Exactly, question number one and Palin opinion's doesn't seem to matter to McCain supporters. Their reluctance and outright shamelessness when lying to the American people isn't paid much attention either, save by critical thinkers.
 
  • #563
Salon said:
Oct. 7, 2008 | "My government is my worst enemy. I'm going to fight them with any means at hand."

This was former revolutionary terrorist Bill Ayers back in his old Weather Underground days, right? Imagine what Sarah Palin is going to do with this incendiary quote as she tears into Barack Obama this week.

Only one problem. The quote is from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that's the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. ("Keep up the good work," Palin told AIP members. "And God bless you.")

AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her kind of gal. "She's Alaskan to the bone ... she sounds just like Joe Vogler."

...Vogler's greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States "tyranny" before the entire world and to demand Alaska's freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.
http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/
 
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  • #565
Evo said:
Sadly, the vast majority of people voting for McPalin won't ever see any of these articles. We are preaching to the choir. :frown:

That may be.

But at least the music in the church can still be appreciated.
 
  • #566
Palin wants to bring up Rev. Wright and claim that Obama supported all his rhetoric. Funny thing, though - she was blessed and protected from demons by a laying-on of hands by Rev. Muthee, whose career took off when he went to Kiambu, Kenya, and accused a woman known as "Mama Jane" of witchcraft. He drummed up a riotous crowd against the woman, and the police intervened to keep the crowd from stoning her to death. I'll bet she wishes Rev. Wright had come after her instead.
 
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  • #567
Evo said:
Sadly, the vast majority of people voting for McPalin won't ever see any of these articles. We are preaching to the choir. :frown:

However, we are interested in swing voters and Inds who may be surfing and reading.

I have found myself quoted in at least three different languages [besides English], so I know these things can get around.
 
  • #568
Hopefully not if she and McCain never get their fingers on the nuclear button.
Salon said:
Munger also asked Palin if she truly believed in the End of Days, the doomsday scenario when the Messiah will return. "She looked in my eyes and said, 'Yes, I think I will see Jesus come back to Earth in my lifetime.'"
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index1.html
 
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  • #569
Evo said:
How can a Presidential candidate that is taking steps to avoid scrutiny from the press be trusted? If Sarah Palin's opinions are so harmful that she can't be trusted to speak, how can they ask the American public to place her in the position of Vice-president?

To be fair, Dick Cheney does the same thing. For different reason though.
 
  • #570
phoenixy said:
To be fair, Dick Cheney does the same thing. For different reason though.

But the idea is they are supposed to be mavericks and go do their mavericky thing there in Washington. Being like Cheney or Bush is what the whole country is fed up with.
 

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