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The discussion centers on the impact of Sarah Palin's selection as the vice-presidential candidate for John McCain's campaign. Initial reactions highlighted her appeal to women, but the conversation quickly shifted to criticisms of her qualifications and the controversies surrounding her, such as her daughter's pregnancy and various ethical issues. Despite these controversies, many supporters remained loyal, attributing her popularity to her charisma and ability to connect with conservative values. Critics argue that her lack of substantial experience and knowledge in complex political matters undermines her candidacy. The dialogue also touches on the broader implications of the election process, suggesting that it has devolved into a popularity contest rather than a serious evaluation of candidates' qualifications and policies. Participants express frustration over the perceived ignorance of voters who support candidates based on superficial traits rather than substantive issues, leading to concerns about the future of democracy and informed decision-making in elections.
  • #721
AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

These people are suppose to be anti-corruption?
 
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  • #722
turbo-1 said:
The VP is in charge of the Senate? Hmm, the VP gets to ceremoniously gavel the Senate into session, and can cast a tie-breaker vote if necessary. What is left for the Senate Majority Leader and the Senate Minority Leader and their staffs to do if Queen Sarah takes over? She has less of a clue than many grade-school kids.

I think it is stunning that after her debate faux pas she didn't bother to actually discover what it is the Constitution has in mind for the VP.

I thought Powell's description of the VP was closest to being the most accurate as far as duty - being prepared in case they have to assume office as President. Sadly she's apparently not prepared to teach the 3rd grade.
 
  • #723
Oops - gavel* (fixed)
 
  • #725
Maybe the make-up artists are paid on a cost-plus basis for materials. They sure have been troweling on the rouge...

The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.
 
  • #726
phoenixy said:
RNC appears to shell out $150K for Palin fashion

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1008/14805.html

Superficial
According to financial disclosure records, the accessorizing began in early September and included bills from Saks Fifth Avenue in St. Louis and New York for a combined $49,425.74.
Well she spent at Saks about what half the people in the country make in one year. Median income in the US in 2007 for a household was $50,233, up from $49,580 in 2006.

The real median earnings of men who worked full time, year-round climbed between 2006 and 2007, from $43,460 to $45,113. For women, the corresponding increase was from $33,437 to $35,102.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Household_income_in_the_United_States
http://www.census.gov/Press-Release/www/releases/archives/income_wealth/012528.html

The records also document a couple of big-time shopping trips to Neiman Marcus in Minneapolis, including one $75,062.63 spree in early September.

The RNC also spent $4,716.49 on hair and makeup through September after reporting no such costs in August.
:rolleyes: Of course, she doesn't pay taxes on it.
 
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  • #727
Astronuc said:
:rolleyes: Of course, she doesn't pay taxes on it.
Ah, the Ted Stevens defense! If you claim that they are not gifts, and continue to deny that you received gifts, then the gifts are NOT gifts and need not be reported, nor do you have to pay taxes on them. I am reminded of Humpty-Dumpty's dissertation about the meaning of words...
 
  • #728
Astronuc said:
Well she spent at Saks about what half the people in the country make in one year.

Well now she will have a fabulous wardrobe when she goes back to Alaska ... bought off the backs of the Republican donors.
 
  • #729
LowlyPion said:
Well now she will have a fabulous wardrobe when she goes back to Alaska ... bought off the backs of the Republican donors.
No - then she would have to pay taxes - if she kept the clothes. I imagine she's just borrowing them.

Isn't it nice to rich friends. :biggrin:


If you don't have someone lavishing you with a $150 K wardrobe, then you just haven't worked hard enough. :wink:
 
  • #730
Common guys stay on topic! This almost sounds like the Clinton hair cut drama. You better look your best and I have no problem with the money spend there.
 
  • #731
phoenixy said:
AP INVESTIGATION: Alaska funded Palin kids' travel

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081021/ap_on_el_pr/palin_family_travel

These people are suppose to be anti-corruption?
Maybe she's trying out socialism. She's allowing taxpayers to share their wealth with her children. :biggrin:

Certainly makes one wonder what she'd do as VP.
 
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  • #732
Astronuc said:
Certainly makes one wonder what she'd do as VP.

She already told us what she will do as VP during debate and interviews. Recap right here.



Basically, she is convinced that she be a better palpatine than Cheney.
 
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  • #733
Here's more on Palin misinforming third graders about the role of VP. Anyone voting for McCain/Palin, please explain to me how you can do that when Palin doesn't even know what the VP does.

The subject of the vice president's duties came up as Palin sat for an interview with KUSA-TV in Denver, which has a feature called "Question from the Third Grade." The interviewer asked, "Brandon Garcia wants to know, 'What does the vice president do?'"

"That's a great question, Brandon, and a vice president has a really great job, because not only are they there to support the president's agenda, they're like the team member, the team mate to that president," Palin said.

"But also, they're in charge of the United States Senate, so if they want to they can really get in there with the senators and make a lot of good policy changes that will make life better for Brandon and his family and his classroom. And it's a great job and I look forward to having that job," she said.
WRONG.

The vice president's main duty is to replace the president if the president dies, resigns, is removed from office or can no longer carry out his or her duties for other reasons. The Constitution names the vice president as the president of the Senate but allows the vice president to cast a vote only to break a tie.

The vice president, as a member of the executive branch of the government, has no official role in developing legislation or determining how it is presented to or debated by the Senate, which is part of the legislative branch. In all meaningful ways, the leader of the majority party runs the Senate.

Traditionally, the vice president appears in the Senate for ceremonial events and in case of a tie vote. Although the vice president can preside over the Senate, vice presidents have left that day-to-day chore to senators themselves. In the past, each president has determined the role of the vice president in an administration.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081022/ap_on_el_pr/palin_vice_president_s_job
 
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  • #734
Traditionally, the vice president appears in the Senate for ceremonial events and in case of a tie vote. Although the vice president can preside over the Senate, vice presidents have left that day-to-day chore to senators themselves. In the past, each president has determined the role of the vice president in an administration.
Maybe Palin plans to change the role and become an 'activist' VP, just like the 'activist' judges that conservatives deride.
 
  • #735
Astronuc said:
Maybe Palin plans to change the role and become an 'activist' VP, just like the 'activist' judges that conservatives deride.
Oh, I am sure will try anything.
 
  • #736
She has repeatedly claimed that the Constitution gives the VP "flexibility" to assume more powers if he chooses. I haven't seen her constitution yet - must be the marked-up copy in Cheney's office.
 
  • #737
I bet a year ago, if anyone had suggested the current line up for P/VP elections, they would have been labeled 'insane'.

This has to be the most surreal election in history, or perhaps each election seems surreal when one is involved with it.

I'm trying to avoid the commercials. The headlines are bad enough.
 
  • #738
Astronuc said:
I'm trying to avoid the commercials. The headlines are bad enough.
I'm glad I only watch the TV to get news. The constant drumbeat of attack ads from McCain is nauseating. Unfortunately, I have to go out to my mailbox every day - more crap to throw away almost daily.

McCain must be going for a narrow electoral college victory. There is no other rational explanation for the ad-buys here other than the chance that he may be able to pull enough votes in the 2nd congressional district to get ONE of Maine's apportioned EC votes. That's a tall order, though. Most of the recent mill closings and loss of industrial jobs, including agriculture (wood harvesting) and trucking have been in the 2nd district. I expect some life-long Republicans might hand McCain a bit of a surprise in this region.

The economy is bleak and winter is coming. Food banks are tapped out and fuel-assistance programs either have to ration financial aid for all applicants, or concentrate on keeping the most at-risk alive - mostly elderly people with little or no income, whose food and medical bills take what little money they have. This bleak economic climate should make the GOP wonder whether they should expect solidarity or defections.
 
  • #739
Reading Palin's statements on the role of the VP, it makes me wonder whether this is an election or a coup...
 
  • #740
Ben Niehoff said:
Reading Palin's statements on the role of the VP, it makes me wonder whether this is an election or a coup...

I'm sure it wouldn't matter either way to McPalin as long as they get in by any means.

The Constitution seems an inconvenience to the Bush neo-cons.
 
  • #741
Does anyone mind that "carribou barbie" is preaching to "joe six-pack" while dressed up to the tune of $150,000?
 
  • #742
I wondered when you would catch on.
 
  • #743
Palin doesn't know what a precondition is, or a dictator?
WILLIAMS: Governor Palin, yesterday you tied this notion of an early test to the new president. Would this notion of precondition –

PALIN: Right.

WILLIAMS: — that you both have been hammering the Obama campaign on. What — first of all, what in your mind is a precondition?

PALIN: You have to have some diplomatic strategy going into a meeting with someone like Ahmadinejad or Kim Jong-il, one of these dictators that would seek to destroy America or her allies. It is so naive and so dangerous for a presidential candidate to just proclaim that they would be willing to sit down with a– a leader like Ahmadinejad and just talk about the problems, the issues that are facing them. So that — that’s — that’s some ill-preparedness right there.

http://thinkprogress.org/2008/10/22/palin-preconditions/

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  • #744
I wonder what McCain is thinking. He looks like he's praying for devine intervention that Palin doesn't screw up the response - or he's thinking he really screwed up by picking her.
 
  • #745
"Naive and dangerous" to engage in diplomacy? I think we know who is naive and dangerous. She is so inexperienced that she frames diplomacy as it happens in a series of summit meetings, at which the leaders of the countries involved have face-to-face talks. Somebody please tell her that we have a diplomatic corps, as do our "enemies", and that diplomatic wrangling generally goes on behind the scenes until there is some sort of agreement or mutual understanding that can be announced publicly.

Maybe Kissinger would agree to explain to her slowly in easy-to-understand language why it might be necessary to talk to ones enemies, and how "preconditions" as minor as the proposed shape of the conference table can freeze progress on important issues. Probably a wasted effort, though.
 
  • #746
Gokul43201 said:
Palin doesn't know what a precondition is, or a dictator?

Palin's_comment said:
... that’s some ill-preparedness right there.

I think she was talking about herself and her own responses.
 
  • #747
turbo-1 said:
Maybe Kissinger would agree to explain to her slowly in easy-to-understand language why it might be necessary to talk to ones enemies, and how "preconditions" as minor as the proposed shape of the conference table can freeze progress on important issues. Probably a wasted effort, though.

I think Kissinger must be appalled at the thought of such a walking disaster as this Palin woman involving her ignorant self in foreign matters.

Which makes one wonder just what the duo actually brings to National problems. McCain clueless on the economy, erratic in his actions, a loose cannon on the world stage and tagging along is his clueless sidekick Palin with her pom-poms and announcing she is at the ready to involve herself as Queen of the Senate.
 
  • #748
LowlyPion said:
I think Kissinger must be appalled at the thought of such a walking disaster as this Palin woman involving her ignorant self in foreign matters.

Which makes one wonder just what the duo actually brings to National problems. McCain clueless on the economy, erratic in his actions, a loose cannon on the world stage and tagging along is his clueless sidekick Palin with her pom-poms and announcing she is at the ready to involve herself as Queen of the Senate.
What I can't understand is how millions of people are seemingly ok with, or completely ignorant of, this scenario.
 
  • #749
Evo said:
What I can't understand is how millions of people are seemingly ok with, or completely ignorant of, this scenario.

Of course millions aren't. And they will be voting for Obama.

The other millions are dreaming about some "real" America that doesn't apparently exist outside the fantasies of Pentecostal small town zealots that would have people live their way or hit the highway.
 
  • #750
On Monday, James Dobson interviewed Palin by phone. If you have a strong stomach you can listen to this interview from 12:40 to 15:03 as Palin tap-dances around Dobson's question as to whether McCain would implement the GOP platform as written. It is apparent that she has not read the platform, nor the parts of it that are so precious to right-wing Christians, so she is reduced to enthusing over "our strong platform" and "the strong planks of our platform" and how you only had to to look at the "planks" in the platform to see how much better McCain-Palin would be for the country. If you are mean, you can cue up the interview and challenge a friend to chug a beer immediately every time he hears the word "plank" in this classic non-answer. My advice - stock up on beer and have a puke bucket ready.

http://focusfamaction.edgeboss.net/download/focusfamaction/c4daily/2008-10-22-daily-c4_2.mp3
 
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