Palin pick an insult to our intelligence

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In summary: I guess you could say that I was surprised that the information released about her turned out to be such a non-issue to the American people. In summary, the VP pick of Sarah Palin has been largely successful in attracting women voters to the McCain campaign. However, the media's initial response was mostly in support of Mrs. Palin, and there was little questioning of her ability or experience.
  • #386
Amp1 said:
And heerrreees another article on Palin's veracity:

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/story/23140513/the_truth_about_sarah_palin

Thanks for the link to Rolling Stone. Some of those aren't fully developed I think, though a number of the claims look accurate.

The one that I hadn't read before was the comment about the Meth labs there. 42 last year. 9 the year after Palin was Mayor. Now you can look at that a number of ways. That there is a great increase after her leaving. But that there were 9 labs during her reign. I tend to go with the 1 lab is too many school of thought.

I thought this story about Meth in Wasilla put a new light on the Small Town Family Values that Palin likes to claim she represents.

http://www.juneauempire.com/stories/030805/sta_20050308002.shtml
 
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  • #387
You've got to love every time she talks.

Palin defends Alaska-Russia foreign policy remark

When Couric asked how Alaska's closeness to Russia enhanced her foreign policy experience, Palin said, "Well, it certainly does because our ... our next-door neighbors are foreign countries." Alaska shares a border with Canada.

Palin didn't answer directly when Couric inquired about whether she had been involved in any negotiations with the Russians.

"We have trade missions back and forth," she replied. As she continued, Palin brought up Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin.

"It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is — from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to ... to our state," she said.
:uhh:

It seems I missed when Iraq and Afghanistan invaded US soil. But Palin won't let it happen again. :rofl:

Palin was asked if she thought the U.S. presence in Iraq and Afghanistan was helping to mitigate terrorism

"I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security for our nation. We can never again let them onto our soil," she said.
Ok...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_el_pr/palin;_ylt=Ap3xR4TEHXlDm044m9BcGGJh24cA [Broken]
 
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  • #388
Evo said:
It seems I missed when Iraq and Afghanistan invaded US soil. But Palin won't let it happen again. :rofl:

Ok...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_el_pr/palin;_ylt=Ap3xR4TEHXlDm044m9BcGGJh24cA [Broken]

The follow up then should have been whether that exclusion extends to taking them to Guantanamo and torturing them as the current administration does. Or would it rather be called "exorcisms" in any potential administration of hers. Have Reverend Muthee tie them up and drop them in water and if they sink they were telling the truth?
Rev_Muthee said:
... and ah ... rebuke the witchcraft.
 
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  • #389
I want to see a complete transcript, but if the above is actually what Palin said, she is accusing the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan of terrorism. Ooops.

Yes, I'm picking on her. :devil:
 
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Evo said:
I want to see a complete transcript, but if the above is actually what Palin said, she is accusing the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan of terrorism. Ooops.

Yes, I'm picking on her. :devil:

Hey how about Reverend Muthee for Secretary of Education?

Then we can get God back in the schools.
 
  • #391
The female new anchor of our local FOX-affiliated TV station has started wearing her hair up in a beehive, and using more eye makeup. She looks a lot like Palin from some angles. She hasn't got the dumb part down very well, but then she just reads the news and tries to pronounce everything properly.
 
  • #392
OMG - I just watched Katie Couric asking Palin why Alaska's proximity to Russia translates into foreign policy experience for her. Palin sounded like an idiot! I don't know why the McCain campaign hasn't managed to give her some scripted lines that could limit the damage, but either they have not done so or she blew her lines badly.
 
  • #393


Watch her ramble on about the bailout without ever mentioning anything about it...
 
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  • #394
Palin's finally permits a little bit of access to the press and this is the best they can do?

Transcript:
CNN: On the topic of never letting this happen again, do you agree with the way the Bush administration has handled the war on terrorism, is there anything you would do differently?

A: I agree with the Bush administration that we take the fight to them. We never again let them come onto our soil and try to destroy not only our democracy, but communities like the community of New York. Never again. So yes, I do agree with taking the fight to the terrorists and stopping them over there.

POLITICO: Do you think our presence in Iraq and afghan and our continued presence there is inflaming islamic extremists?

A: I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security of our nation, again, because the mission is to take the fight over there. do not let them come over here and attempt again what they accomplished here, and that was some destruction. terrible destruction on that day. but since September 11, Americans uniting and rebuilding and committing to never letting that happen again.

POLITICO: Do you support the reelection bids of embattled Alaska Republicans, Rep. Don Young and Sen. Ted Stevens?

A: Ted Stevens trial started a couple days ago. We’ll see where that goes.

POLITICO: Are you gong to vote for them?

[no answer.]

JERSEY JOURNAL: What do you think of bailout package before congress?

A: I don't support that until the provisions that Sen. McCain has offered are implemented in Paulson's proposals.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/25/palin.media/index.html

The Couric "interview" : http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=4476649n

Sad!
 
  • #395
Palin called Kissinger and others who support negotiations with Syria, Iran, and other countries "beyond naïve." What a moron! She's such an expert in foreign affairs because as mocked in the SNL skit "I can see Russia from my house." We don't have to have detailed, in-depth negotiations with countries that agree with US policies - diplomacy centers on talking to people with whom you have fundamental disagreements, in order to forge some common ground that benefits both sides and avoids unnecessary conflict. Palin does not understand that (like W), and she is far too dangerous to put into office.

Couric: You met yesterday with former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger, who is for direct diplomacy with both Iran and Syria. Do you believe the U.S. should negotiate with leaders like President Assad and Ahmadinejad?

Palin: I think, with Ahmadinejad, personally, he is not one to negotiate with. You can't just sit down with him with no preconditions being met. Barack Obama is so off-base in his proclamation that he would meet with some of these leaders around our world who would seek to destroy America and that, and without preconditions being met. That's beyond naïve. And it's beyond bad judgment.

Couric: Are you saying Henry Kissinger …

Palin: It's dangerous.

Couric: … is naïve for supporting that?

Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met." Diplomacy is about doing a lot of background work first and shoring up allies and positions and figuring out what sanctions perhaps could be implemented if things weren't going to go right. That's part of diplomacy.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/09/25/eveningnews/main4479062.shtml
 
  • #396
From turbo's quote:
Palin: I've never heard Henry Kissinger say, "Yeah, I'll meet with these leaders without preconditions being met."

Does she not follow the news? One would think an event with 5 former Sec States giving talks under one roof would be something to pay a little attention to. Apparently not!

ABC News' Rachel Martin Reports: Former U.S.Secretary of State Henry Kissinger today told an audience in Washington, DC that the U.S. should negotiate with Iran "without conditions" and that the next President should begin such negotiations at a high level.
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/09/kissinger-backs.html
 
  • #397
Palin_via_Gokul43201 said:
A: I think our presence in Iraq and Afghanistan will lead to further security of our nation, again, because the mission is to take the fight over there. do not let them come over here ...

Right. They can shoot at Americans over there without having to come over here. And in that regard, how patriotic, to be offering up her son as target material.

I'm reminded of those targets every Sunday at the end of This Week, George Stephanopoulos offers up the names of those killed in action in Iraq.
 
  • #398
LowlyPion said:
I'm reminded of those targets every Sunday at the end of This Week, George Stephanopoulos offers up the names of those killed in action in Iraq.
I'm reminded of them at the end of News Hour, and as they silently display the names, ranks and photos of these dead soldiers, I always think of how much is not shown. The families left behind, the lost dreams, the personal victories and failures in the lives of the slain ... and I always think of something else - the ruined lives of the seriously wounded. For every fatality in Iraq, there are many people with brain-damage, hearing loss, missing limbs, severe burns, disfigurement, etc, etc that are being warehoused in VA facilities that are underfunded, understaffed, and ill-equipped to deal with the wounded. In addition, there are the "walking wounded" who are physically OK, but carry psychological damage that leads them to violence against themselves and/or against others, and whose reluctance to admit depression and anxiety leaves them untreated and worsening when they return home. "Ticking time-bombs".
 
  • #400
turbo-1 said:
I always think of how much is not shown.

And a good part of that is prohibited by the Administration. As I recall, bodies coming home, funerals of soldiers are currently off limits to US reporters or they are cut off from pool coverage.
 
  • #401
Palin defends Alaska-Russia foreign policy remark
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080925/ap_on_el_pr/palin [Broken]
NEW YORK - Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin defended her remark that the proximity of Russia to her home state of Alaska gives her foreign policy experience, explaining in a CBS interview airing Thursday that "we have trade missions back and forth."

Palin has never visited Russia and until last year the 44-year-old Alaska governor had never traveled outside North America. She also had never met a foreign leader until her trip this week to New York. In the CBS interview, she did not offer any examples of having been involved in any negotiations with the Russians.

Palin's foreign policy experience came up when she gave her first major interview, on Sept. 11 to ABC News. Asked what insight she had gained from living so close to Russia, she said: "They're our next-door neighbors and you can actually see Russia from land here in Alaska, from an island in Alaska."

The comment met with derision from Palin's critics and was turned into a punch line for a "Saturday Night Live" skit featuring actress Tina Fey. Appearing as Palin, she proclaimed, "I can see Russia from my house!"

In the interview with CBS News anchor Katie Couric, Palin said: "It's funny that a comment like that was, kind of made to ... I don't know, you know? Reporters ..."
. . . .

When Couric asked how Alaska's closeness to Russia enhanced her foreign policy experience, Palin said, "Well, it certainly does because our ... our next-door neighbors are foreign countries." Alaska shares a border with Canada.

Palin didn't answer directly when Couric inquired about whether she had been involved in any negotiations with the Russians.
. . . .

"It's very important when you consider even national security issues with Russia as Putin rears his head and comes into the air space of the United States of America, where — where do they go? It's Alaska. It's just right over the border. It is — from Alaska that we send those out to make sure that an eye is being kept on this very powerful nation, Russia, because they are right there. They are right next to ... to our state," she said.

Palin has two trade specialists working for the governor's office. The top countries receiving Alaskan goods are Japan, Korea, China, Canada and Germany, according to 2006 export data, the most recent figures published, with seafood accounting for 50 percent of products exported.
. . . .
So leave Palin in Alaska where she can keep an eye on those foreign neighbors.

She seems unaware that the top trading partners are Japan, Korea, China, Canada and Germany.
 
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  • #402
McCain Campaign is now requesting that the Vice-Presidential debate be postponed. No way! I can't wait to see Palin in a live debate.
 
  • #403
Sen. McCain, it's called multitasking.

but it may mean missing an afternoon nap or two.
 
  • #404
Alfi said:
Sen. McCain, it's called multitasking.

but it may mean missing an afternoon nap or two.
I loved Obama's response "it's only 90 minutes". Since they work in their limo's and on their planes, it really isn't taking that much time out of their work. McCain would probably be eating or sleeping anyway.
 
  • #405
Evo said:
I loved Obama's response "it's only 90 minutes". Since they work in their limo's and on their planes, it really isn't taking that much time out of their work. McCain would probably be eating or sleeping anyway.

90 minutes is apparently beyond the McCain half-life for policy retention span.

Looks to me like the plan is setting up for McCain to grandstand at the debate and try to enter as a hero like he has saved anything with his faux theatrics. Apparently this is the Republicans' great hope in stalling any bailout, to make it a Democratic problem, even though it is a problem of their own making.

The down side to this is that Palin out on her own is getting more exposure and sounding everyday like she only knows about as much as a hockey mom about national affairs and international diplomacy. For instance if she ever comes up with anything about John McCain ever doing anything supporting this notion that he is a reformer, she will have to get back to Couric.
 
  • #407
turbo-1 said:
Palin "cracked down" on gift-giving to state employees. Yet in her first 20 months as governor, she has accepted over $25,000 in gifts. Hmmm. That pales in comparison to the over $250,000 that Ted Stevens collected, but to be fair, Palin needs time to warm up - Stevens has been at it a lot longer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/25/AR2008092503988.html?hpid=topnews

Well now wait a minute. Ted Stevens wasn't given those gifts. He just had a contractor do some work on his house that he wrote checks for and ... well he was so busy in Washington that he didn't realize that he was getting a below $250K deal on the work.

I'm sure that he was as shocked as the people of Alaska that it would have been that much of an under-charge.
 
  • #408
Kathleen Parker has written in the National Review that Palin is unqualified and out of her league, and that she should drop out to "spend time with her family". Pretty harsh coming from a conservative woman with pretty solid credentials.

Kathleen Parker said:
If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE= [Broken]
 
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  • #409
CNN said:
Palin has denied any wrongdoing, arguing that Monegan was fired for insubordination after he continued to press for funding for projects the governor opposed.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/25/palin.probe/index.html?iref=nextin

He pressed for projects she opposed ... so off with his head?

What a National Nightmare she would be as President.

It seems like just admitting that she fired him because she wanted her sister's ex-husband fired because of the divorce wouldn't open her to nearly the fly-back she's getting with her stonewalling and stupid excuses.
 
  • #410
CNN said:
September 26, 2008
Palin should step down, conservative commentator says
Posted: 02:27 PM ET
(CNN) – Prominent conservative columnist Kathleen Parker, an early supporter of Republican VP candidate Sarah Palin, said Friday recent interviews have shown the Alaska governor is "out of her league" and should leave the GOP presidential ticket for the good of the party.
http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/
From her column:
Kathleen_Parker said:
If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=MDZiMDhjYTU1NmI5Y2MwZjg2MWNiMWMyYTUxZDkwNTE= [Broken]
 
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  • #411
From the Hannity - Palin interview. :rofl:

Hannity: What is our role as a country as it relates to national security?

Palin: Yes. That's a great question, and being an optimist I see our role in the world as one of being a force for good, and one of being the leader of the world when it comes to the values that -- it seems that just human kind embraces the values that -- encompass life and liberty and the pursuit of happiness, and that's just -- not just in America, that is in our world.

And America is in a position because we care for so many people to be able to lead and to be able to have a strong diplomacy and a strong military also at the same time to defend not only our freedoms, but to help these rising smaller democratic countries that are just -- you know, they're putting themselves on the map right now, and they're going to be looking to America as that leader.

We being used as a force for good is how I see our country.
:bugeye:

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2008/09/palin_on_thin_ice.html
 
  • #412
If BS were currency, Palin could bail out Wall Street herself.

That's funny!
 
  • #414
Sarah Palin: Out of Control Talking Point Machine or Political Magnetic Poetry?
http://www.usnews.com/blogs/robert-...int-machine-or-political-magnetic-poetry.html
September 25, 2008 05:47 PM ET | Robert Schlesinger

Sarah Palin's first interview, with Charles Gibson, was painful. Her latest rounds with Katie Couric build on that discomfort and add mystery. As in: What's she saying?

If you can't see it, Couric asks Palin whether it mightn't be a good idea to spend the $700 billion on things like helping people get healthcare, gas, and groceries rather than on a Wall Street bailout.

Palin: That's why I say I, like every American I'm speaking with, we're ill about this position that we have been put in where it is the taxpayers looking to bail out. But ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy. Helping the—it's got to be all about job creation too, shoring up our economy and putting it back on the right track. So health care reform and reducing taxes and reining in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans and trade—we've got to see trade as opportunity, not as competitive, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today—we've got to look at that as more opportunity.

It's like a talking points machine gone out of control. Or magnetic poetry that you have on your fridge—in fact, you can try it at home. String together key words and phrases like "shore up the economy," "reduce tax rates," "healthcare reform," and "trade" and see what kind of Palinisms you can create.
:bugeye: :eek: :uhh: :rofl:

Can Palin even construct a complete sentence? Can she even complete a thought?
 
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  • #415
Astronuc said:
Can Palin even construct a complete sentence? Can she even complete a thought?

Maybe she's had so few that she doesn't recognize them when they happen?
 
  • #416
Jack Cafferty pretty much nails it. You have to have a strong stomach to watch this tape.

 
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  • #417
turbo-1 said:
]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L8__aXxXPVc

Wolf says "That was not her best answer."

He should work for Fox.
 
  • #418
I liked the nature of the question, which is why isn't it better to help the Americans who are struggling rather than the big financial institues. I didn't get Palin's answer, either.
 
  • #419
LowlyPion said:
Wolf says "That was not her best answer."

He should work for Fox.
That's the understatement of the year, Wolfie! Reading a transcript of her "answer" is mind-boggling enough, but actually watching video of her puking out incoherent piles of talking points is horrifying. If people pull the lever for McCain after seeing such a pathetic performance, I have to wonder if they love their country or wish to risk it all on such a wild gamble.
 
  • #420
turbo-1 said:
Jack Cafferty pretty much nails it. You have to have a strong stomach to watch this tape.

Did you watch the CNN commentary after the debate last night? They were saying the same thing about Palin last night. It was too funny.
 
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<h2>What are the main reasons why the "Palin pick" is considered an insult to our intelligence?</h2><p>One of the main reasons is that Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska, lacked experience and knowledge in foreign policy and national affairs, making her a questionable choice for the position of Vice President.</p><p>Additionally, her lack of understanding on key issues and her tendency to make controversial and uninformed statements further added to the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence.</p><h2>Did Sarah Palin's previous political experiences make her a suitable candidate for the Vice President position?</h2><p>While Sarah Palin had some experience as a governor, her lack of experience in national politics and foreign affairs raised doubts about her suitability for the role of Vice President. Many argued that her limited experience did not adequately prepare her for such a high-level position.</p><h2>What impact did the "Palin pick" have on the 2008 presidential election?</h2><p>The selection of Sarah Palin as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee was met with mixed reactions. While it energized some conservative voters, it also raised concerns among others about her qualifications and readiness for the position. Ultimately, the "Palin pick" did not have a significant impact on the outcome of the election.</p><h2>How did the media coverage of Sarah Palin during the 2008 election contribute to the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence?</h2><p>The intense media scrutiny of Sarah Palin's background, qualifications, and controversial statements further highlighted the concerns about her readiness for the Vice Presidential position. This constant coverage added to the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence.</p><h2>Did Sarah Palin's performance as a Vice Presidential candidate justify the criticism and perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence?</h2><p>While opinions may vary, many argue that Sarah Palin's performance during the 2008 election, including her lack of knowledge on key issues and her controversial statements, did not meet the expectations of a Vice Presidential candidate. This further reinforced the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence.</p>

What are the main reasons why the "Palin pick" is considered an insult to our intelligence?

One of the main reasons is that Sarah Palin, the former governor of Alaska, lacked experience and knowledge in foreign policy and national affairs, making her a questionable choice for the position of Vice President.

Additionally, her lack of understanding on key issues and her tendency to make controversial and uninformed statements further added to the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence.

Did Sarah Palin's previous political experiences make her a suitable candidate for the Vice President position?

While Sarah Palin had some experience as a governor, her lack of experience in national politics and foreign affairs raised doubts about her suitability for the role of Vice President. Many argued that her limited experience did not adequately prepare her for such a high-level position.

What impact did the "Palin pick" have on the 2008 presidential election?

The selection of Sarah Palin as the Republican Vice Presidential nominee was met with mixed reactions. While it energized some conservative voters, it also raised concerns among others about her qualifications and readiness for the position. Ultimately, the "Palin pick" did not have a significant impact on the outcome of the election.

How did the media coverage of Sarah Palin during the 2008 election contribute to the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence?

The intense media scrutiny of Sarah Palin's background, qualifications, and controversial statements further highlighted the concerns about her readiness for the Vice Presidential position. This constant coverage added to the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence.

Did Sarah Palin's performance as a Vice Presidential candidate justify the criticism and perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence?

While opinions may vary, many argue that Sarah Palin's performance during the 2008 election, including her lack of knowledge on key issues and her controversial statements, did not meet the expectations of a Vice Presidential candidate. This further reinforced the perception that her selection was an insult to our intelligence.

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