Parallel Plate Capacitor (work and potential difference)

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around a problem involving a parallel plate capacitor, specifically focusing on the work done in moving a charge and the potential difference between the plates. The original poster presents a scenario where a -9.0 mC charge requires 3.0 J of work to be moved between the plates.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the work done by the electrical force and the potential difference, with attempts to apply relevant formulas. Questions arise regarding the interpretation of the formulas and the values used in calculations.

Discussion Status

Some participants have offered clarifications on the formulas being used, particularly regarding the work done against the electric field and the definitions of potential difference. There is an acknowledgment of confusion surrounding the application of certain equations, and a participant indicates they have reached an understanding.

Contextual Notes

There are constraints noted, such as the lack of information about the electric field and distance between the plates, which complicates the use of certain formulas for potential difference. The original poster also expresses difficulty with the problem setup and the values derived from their attempts.

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Homework Statement



Professor Milly Coulomb finds it takes 3.0 J of work to drag, at constant speed, a -9.0 mC charge between the plates of a parallel plate capacitor.

(a) What is the work done by the electrical force in taking the charge between the plates?

(b) What is the potential difference between the plates of the capacitor?


Homework Equations



PE = (QV) / 2
V = 2PE / Q

The Attempt at a Solution



b) V = 2PE / Q
V = (2 * 3) / -.009
V = -666.667 V

For part b, I tried both positive and negative values but they were both wrong.
For part a, I tried the values of 0 and 3 but they were wrong also.

Thanks for anyone who helps! :wink:
 
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a) You have to be more explicit as to what you tried here. Positive and negative values of what?

b) Why did you multiply it by 2?
 
a) +/- 666.67 as answers for the problem when changing the charge. They were both incorect.

b) I based it off the formula PE = .5QV
 
a) Work is done to move charge across a potential difference. This work is done against the field. So what is the work done by the field?

b) The formula 1/2QV gives you the amount of energy stored in the capacitor, with Q being the amount of charge on the capacitor plates, not as you have interpreted it, the amount of charge the person has moved from one plate to the other.

So for this, you have to think back to what constitutes the work done in moving the charge across the plates. In particular, think of what is the work done in moving a charge across a potential difference V?
 
I figured out part a, but part b is confusing given the problem. I found a formula in my textbook about potential difference between the two capacitor plates as: V = Ed. However this cannot be found as E and d are not given in the problem. I also know that V = Q/C, but capacitance is unknown as well.
 
So, in this case, you can't rely on that formula to do it. As I said earlier, think in terms of the formula you have for work done to move a charge q over a potential difference V. This definition is more fundamental than the concept of capacitance. You don't need to understand capacitance to come up with that.
 
Okay, I finally got it now. Thanks a lot!
 

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