Partial Derivatives and using the chain rule

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The discussion revolves around the problem of showing that \( x^{2}V_{xx} + 2xyV_{xy} + y^{2}V_{yy} = 6V \) given \( V = x^{3}f(y/x) \). The subject area involves partial derivatives and the application of the chain rule in multivariable calculus.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants explore the differentiation of the function \( f(y/x) \) with respect to \( x \) and question whether \( f \) should be treated as a constant or a function of \( x \) and \( y \). There are attempts to apply the chain rule, with some participants expressing confusion about the correct approach to differentiate \( f(y/x) \).

Discussion Status

The discussion includes various attempts to clarify the differentiation process, with some participants providing guidance on using the chain rule correctly. There is an ongoing exploration of the implications of the function's form and how it affects the differentiation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants are addressing potential ambiguities in the problem statement regarding the function \( f \) and its dependence on \( x \) and \( y \). There is a focus on ensuring the problem is correctly understood before proceeding with the solution.

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Homework Statement



If V=x[tex]^{3}[/tex]f(y/x) show that x[tex]^{2}[/tex]Vxx + 2xyVxy + y[tex]^{2}[/tex]Vyy = 6V

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i would normally just use the chain rule to differenciate this with respect to x and then so on but the f(y/x) is throwing me. Do i just treat the f like a constant or is it a whole new function which i have to differenciate first?
thanks
gf
 
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Use the chain rule.
 
ok,
let u = f(y/x)
then du/dx = -f(y/x2)

am i doing this right?
 
I'm a bit confused now, your f appears to be a function of x and y i.e. f(x,y) but yet you have f(x/y), are you sure that's the problem word for word?
 
yes its definitely f(y/x) that's what's throwing me...
 
can you write out the question exactly as it's worded?
 
its worded exactly like i worded it at the start...do you think the question is wrong?
 
gtfitzpatrick said:
ok,
let u = f(y/x)
then du/dx = -f(y/x2)

am i doing this right?

No, use the chain rule, du/dx=f'(y/x)*d(y/x)/dx=-y*f'(y/x)/x^2.
 
gtfitzpatrick said:
ok,
let u = f(y/x)
then du/dx = -f(y/x2)

am i doing this right?
No. You were told to use the chain rule
[tex]\frac{\partial f(y/x)}{\partial x}= f'(y/x)\frac{\partial (y/x)}{\partial x}[/tex]
[tex]= f'(y/x)\frac{\partial yx^{-1}}{\partial x}= - f'(y/x)yx^{-2}= -f'(y/x)\frac{y}{x^2}[/tex]
where "f'(y/x)" is the ordinary derivative of f(x) evaluated at y/x.
 
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thanks lads,
got it worked out, when i looked at the first line in my log tables it all became clear. Thanks for the help
 

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