Partial Derivatives Using Chain Rule

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The discussion focuses on evaluating the expression x ∂ω/∂x + y ∂ω/∂y + z ∂ω/∂z using the chain rule for the function ω = g(u,v), where u = x/y and v = z/y. Participants clarify the application of the chain rule and the relationships between the derivatives of g, u, and v. It is noted that while the specific form of g is unknown, the derivatives with respect to u and v can still be expressed in terms of the partial derivatives of g. The final evaluation leads to the conclusion that the expression simplifies to zero, confirming the correctness of the approach. The conversation emphasizes understanding the function's behavior over the specific variables involved.
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Homework Statement


Suppose ω = g(u,v) is a differentiable function of u = x/y and v = z/y.
Using the chain rule evaluate $$x \frac{\partial ω}{\partial x} + y \frac {\partial ω}{\partial y} + z \frac {\partial ω}{\partial z}$$

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u = f(x,y)
v = h(y,z)
∂ω/∂x = (∂ω/∂u)(∂u/∂x)
∂ω/∂y = (∂ω/∂u)(∂u/∂y)
∂ω/∂z = (∂ω/∂v)(∂v/∂z)

Is this correct so far? Because I don't know how I would take the partials w.r.t. u and v.
 
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Yes. And ##\ {\partial \omega \over \partial u} = \ {\partial g \over \partial u}\ ## etc. Which you don't have to work out any further (because you don't know what g is). But you do know what u and v are, so those have to be evaluated.
 
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A way to write it to make it easier is to define function ##\omega:\mathbb{R}^3\to \mathbb{R}## to be the composition of ##g## with ##f## by ##\omega(x,y,z)=g(f(x,y),f(y,z))##. Note that we don't need ##h## because ##f## and ##h## are the same function, which just returns the quotient of its first argument to its second.

Then the chain rule for ##x## is

$$\frac{\partial \omega}{\partial x}=\frac{\partial g}{\partial u}(u,v)\bigg|_{(u,v)=(f(x,y),f(y,z))}\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(x,y)
+\frac{\partial g}{\partial v}(u,v)\bigg|_{(u,v)=(f(x,y),f(y,z))}\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(y,z)$$

and similarly for the other two. In some cases, one of the two terms will be zero, for instance ##\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}(y,z)=0## because ##x## is not amongst the arguments to ##f## in that expression, but in some cases both terms may be nonzero.
 
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How can f(x,y) and f(y,z) be the same function if they are functions of different variables?
 
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How can f(x,y) and f(y,z) be the same function if they are functions of different variables?
The variables aren't important. It's what the function does with the variables that is important. For example g(t) = t2 + 1 is the same as g(u) = u2 + 1. In this example, g maps a number to the square of that number plus 1.
 
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Is this the correct answer?

##x(∂ω/∂x)+y(∂ω/∂y)+z(∂ω/∂z)=x(∂g/∂u)(∂f/∂x)+y(∂g/∂u)(∂f/∂y)+y(∂g/∂v)(∂f/∂y)+z(∂g/∂v)(∂f/∂z)
=x(1/y)(∂g/∂u)−y(x/y^2)(∂g/∂u)−y(z/y^2)(∂g/∂v)+z(1/y)(∂g/∂v)=u(∂g/∂u)-u(∂g/∂u)-v(∂g/∂v)+v(∂g/∂v)=0##
 
Looks right to me :smile:
 
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Thanks, everyone.
 

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