Partial differential equation-delta Dirac& Heaviside function

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The discussion revolves around the application of partial differential equations, specifically focusing on the Dirac delta and Heaviside functions. Participants are sharing their attempts at solving related problems, seeking verification and assistance with their solutions.

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  • One participant shares their solutions to several questions, expressing uncertainty about their correctness and asking for verification.
  • Another participant inquires whether the Laplace transform has been covered, indicating its relevance to the discussion.
  • There are corrections regarding the use of the shifting theorem in relation to the Laplace transform, with one participant noting a typo in the original post.
  • One participant mentions using Wolfram Alpha to check their work, indicating reliance on computational tools for verification.
  • There is a discussion about the appropriateness of using partial fraction expansion in the context of the Laplace transform, with differing opinions on the method's application.
  • Participants express uncertainty about their methods and results, with one suggesting that their teacher's approach may be more accurate.
  • There is a clarification regarding the course title, which includes "partial" differential equations, leading to some confusion among participants.

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Participants do not reach a consensus on the correctness of the solutions presented. There are multiple competing views on the methods used, particularly regarding the Laplace transform and the application of the shifting theorem.

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Some participants express uncertainty about specific mathematical steps and the validity of their approaches, indicating potential limitations in their understanding or application of the concepts discussed.

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I got 2 questions to ask! I have finished one but not sure if it's correct so I need to double check with someone :)

http://imageshack.us/a/img708/1324/83u8.png

Here is my worked solution, I took this picture with my S4 and I wrote is very neatly as I could! The reason I didn't type it all out since the maths is too much, so I'm sorry ): Question 2 answer: http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/134/8knw.jpg

and http://img202.imageshack.us/img202/1538/klg5.jpg If you are wondering what graph I'm talking about, here it is: http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/4435/s2yd.png

For the 3 question, I gave it a try but I'm sure it's wrong so if you could solve it for me. It is very nice of you! I know it's in this form t^2 [H(t-3)-H(t-4)] Thank you for taking your time to help me! Cheers
 
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Did you cover the Laplace transform?
 
rude man said:
Did you cover the Laplace transform?

Yes, I did. Sometime its hard to rearrange function for inverse lagrange.
I managed to work out the solution for question 3. So could you or someone check my question 2 please!
 
EDIT: I need to correct a typo:

Don't go e-sT = 1/esT. T a constant, in your case 10 and 30.
Any F(s)e-sT inverses to f(t-T)U(t-T) where F(s) inverses to f(t) (shifting theorem). Use that fact whenever you get an e-sT coefficient in the s domain.

Your original transformed equation is correct.

I wouldn't try partial fraction expansion with an esT term in the original F(s). Do your p/f expansion with the polynomial expression only, then use the shifting theorem.

OK, I looked at your solution. I got 2/5 instead of 4/5 for the sin(t-10) term. I might as well confess I used Wolfram Alpha.

But the main problem was whenver you had an exp term you wrote e-at instead of e-a(t-T).
 
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rude man said:
Don't go e-sT = 1/esT. T a constant, in your case 10 and 30.
Any F(s)e-sT inverses to f(t)U(t-T) where F(s) inverses to f(t) (shifting theorem). Use that fact whenever you get an e-sT coefficient in the s domain.

Your original transformed equation is correct.

I wouldn't try partial fraction expansion with an esT term in the original F(s). Do your p/f expansion with the polynomial expression only, then use the shifting theorem.

Well I know the Laplace you are talking about, I was using it for question 1.
For an example 3/(s+3)^3
Y(t)= 3/2 t^2 e^-3t
I usually do the algebra way but this question is too hairy so that's why I'm not sure if my working out is correct so if you could work your way and compare to my answer see you would get the same?

My teacher do this method but I'm not sure if its right though
1/s e^10s (s^2+4s+5)
=1/5 [(1/s -s+2/(s+2)^2+1 -2/(s+2)^2+1 ]e^-10s
 
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PS why did you call this thread "partial" differential equation?

PPS look again at my post #4.
 
rude man said:
PS why did you call this thread "partial" differential equation?

PPS look again at my post #4.

Well... that's the name of the math course I'm doing so yeah
I think my p/f is wrong and my teacher way is right
1/s e^10s (s^2+4s+5)
transform to and then you just look up the table
=1/5 [(1/s -s+2/(s+2)^2+1 -2/(s+2)^2+1 ]e^-10s
 
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