Partial differential (multivariable calculus)

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The discussion revolves around the concept of partial derivatives in the context of multivariable calculus, specifically focusing on the intersection of the surface defined by z=f(x,y) with coordinate planes.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Assumption checking

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  • The original poster attempts to understand the intersection of the surface with the yz-plane by fixing the value of x. Some participants question this approach, suggesting that the intersection should be considered with an arbitrary constant for x instead.

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Participants are exploring different interpretations of how to approach the problem of partial derivatives and their geometric implications. Some guidance has been offered regarding the correct planes to consider for the intersection, but there is no explicit consensus on the best approach yet.

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There is a mention of the need to evaluate the derivative at a specific point (a,b) and the implications of fixing x versus y in the context of partial derivatives. The discussion also highlights potential misunderstandings about the nature of directional derivatives.

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Recall that when we take a partial derivative, at a point (a,b), we fix the x-coordinate at a , and differentiate with respect to the y variable.

Which of the following best describes fixing the x-coordinate at the value a?
Relevant Equations
E.g. f(x,y)=x^2+y^2
f(y)= 2*y
Intersecting the graph of the surface z=f(x,y) with the yz -plane.

This is the option I have chosen, but it's wrong. I don't understand why. x is fixed so I thought the coordinates: y and z are left.

I thought this source may be helpful: https://www.whitman.edu/mathematics/calculus_online/section14.03.html
 
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You fixed the value of ##x## to ##x=0##. Why? You should consider ##g(y)=f(c,y)## with an arbitrary constant ##c##. Now that we are interested in the derivative at ##(x,y)=(a,b)## we get ##c=a##. Your solution is only correct if ##a=0.## E.g. if we have ##f(x,y)=xy^2## then we look for ##g'(y)=(ay^2)'## at ##y=b.## What would we get in the ##y-z-##plane?
 
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Well, g'(y)=2*a*y
If y=b, then g'(y)=2*a*b

Is it a line?
So the correct answer is: Intersecting the graph of the surface z=f(x,y) with the plane y=b ?
 
Poetria said:
Well, g'(y)=2*a*y
If y=b, then g'(y)=2*a*b

Is it a line?
So the correct answer is: Intersecting the graph of the surface z=f(x,y) with the plane y=b ?
Are you sure the partial derivative according to ##y## was meant? I'd say we consider the intersection with the plane ##x=a## since we want to know changes in the ##y-##direction with constant ##x=a.## The plane with ##y=b## doesn't change anything in the ##y-##direction.

A partial derivative is only a directional derivative in a coordinate direction, either ##\partial_x## or ##\partial_y.## Evaluating it at ##(a,b)## means to put the origin of the tangent space in ##(a,b)##, but the directions remain the same.
 
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I got it. The plane a is parallel to the yz plane.
Many thanks.
 
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