Partial integration of the function f = 1

Click For Summary

Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the validity of integrating the constant function f = 1 with respect to a variable in the context of partial derivatives and differential equations. Participants explore the implications of this integration and the role of the constant of integration.

Discussion Character

  • Technical explanation
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions the validity of the expression ∫(1)∂z = z, expressing uncertainty about its meaning in the context of differential equations.
  • Another participant responds by noting that the expression is correct but lacks the constant of integration, which could depend on other variables involved.
  • A third participant expresses understanding and appreciation for the clarification provided.
  • A later reply elaborates on the implications of having multiple partial differential equations, detailing how the integration leads to a function f(x,y,z) that includes terms dependent on other variables and a constant.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants generally agree on the need for a constant of integration in the expression, but the discussion includes varying levels of detail and interpretation regarding the implications of the integration process.

Contextual Notes

The discussion does not resolve the broader implications of the integration in different contexts or the specific conditions under which the derived functions hold true.

caleb5040
Messages
22
Reaction score
0
Given a function z(x,y), is the following expression valid:

∫(1)∂z = z

Does this even make sense? I came up with this in my differential equations class, but I'm not sure if it actually means anything.
 
Physics news on Phys.org
Correct except that you do not have the "constant of integration". Which, because the partial derivative with respect to z treats other variables as constants, may be a function of those other variables. That is, if your variables are x, y, and z, the "anti-derivative" of 1, with respect to z, is z+ f(x,y) where f can be any function of two variables.
 
I think that makes sense. Thanks!
 
Note that if you have the three partial differential equations
\frac{\partial f}{\partial x}= 1
\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= 1
\frac{\partial f}{\partial z}= 1

The last equation gives, as I said, f(x,y,z)= z+ g(x,y). Differentiating that with respect to y,
\frac{\partial f}{\partial y}= \frac{\partial g}{\partial y}= 1
so that g(x,y)= y+ h(x). Differentiating that with respect to x,
\frac{\partial g}{\partial x}= \frac{dh}{dx}= 1
which gives h(x)= x+ C. Putting all of those together, f(x,y,z)= z+ g(x,y)= z+ y+ h(x)a= z+ y+ x+ C.
 

Similar threads

  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
3K
  • · Replies 11 ·
Replies
11
Views
2K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
2K
  • · Replies 16 ·
Replies
16
Views
3K
  • · Replies 9 ·
Replies
9
Views
3K
  • · Replies 8 ·
Replies
8
Views
1K
  • · Replies 1 ·
Replies
1
Views
3K
  • · Replies 6 ·
Replies
6
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
2K
  • · Replies 2 ·
Replies
2
Views
3K