Partial of a Sine where the PHASE is the variable?

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Homework Help Overview

The discussion revolves around taking the partial derivative of the function A0sin(w0*t - B*z) with respect to the variable z. Participants are exploring the application of the chain rule in this context.

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  • Mathematical reasoning, Assumption checking

Approaches and Questions Raised

  • Participants discuss the use of the chain rule for partial derivatives and question how to apply it specifically to the given function. There is uncertainty about whether certain terms can be neglected when focusing on the variable z.

Discussion Status

There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of the chain rule for partial derivatives. Some participants express confusion about the treatment of the function's terms, while others clarify the need to consider all relevant factors in the differentiation process.

Contextual Notes

Participants note that the function is defined in terms of two variables, which influences how the partial derivative should be approached. There is also a mention of previous educational experiences that may not have covered this specific scenario.

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Homework Statement



For example: the function is A0sin(w0*t - B*z)

If I take the partial derivative with respect to z, how do you go about this? In my years at uni, I don't know if this has ever come up.


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My initial thoughts are that it is either 0, or to use the chain rule, although I'm having trouble thinking of how I would do that in this case. Any help is greatly appreciated, thanks!
 
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I'm assuming that your function is defined a f(t, z) = A0sin(w0*t - B*z)

\frac{\partial f}{\partial t}~=~f_t(t,z) = A_0~cos(w_0t - Bz)*w_0
That last factor is the partial of (w0*t - B*z) with respect to t. The only difference between what I've done and what you want is that you want the partial of the same expression with respect to z. Both partials use the chain rule.
 
Er... nevermind. I think you just neglect the first part since we're only concerned with the z variable, and treat it as a sin(-B*z), right?
 
No, that's not how the chain rule works. If your function is truly a function of two variables, which it seems to be, you need to take the partial as I did, only you want the partial with respect to z, not the one with respect to t.
 
Yes I understand that, but since I'm taking the partial with respect to z, the answer would be...

-B*sin(w0*t - Bz)

I didn't explain myself clearly, that's why your confused. I think that we agree however.
 

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