Particle Motion Analysis: Solving for Position and Velocity

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The discussion revolves around the motion of a particle that passes through the origin with an initial speed and experiences acceleration in a specific direction. Participants are tasked with determining the particle's positions and velocities after a set time interval.

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  • Exploratory, Assumption checking, Mathematical reasoning

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  • Participants discuss using the Position Versus Time Equation to find positions in both x and y directions. There is an exploration of treating each direction separately and questioning the assumptions about acceleration in the y direction.

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Some participants have provided guidance on separating the equations for x and y positions. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct application of the equations, particularly regarding the treatment of acceleration and its units. Multiple interpretations of the problem setup are being examined.

Contextual Notes

Participants note confusion regarding the acceleration in the x direction and its implications for the calculations. There is also a discussion about the lack of given acceleration in the y direction, leading to assumptions about constant velocity.

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A particle passes through the origin with an initial speed of 5.6 m/s in the positive y direction. The particle accelerates in the negative x direction at 5.2 m/s2.
(a) What are its x and y positions after 4.0 s?
m (x position)
m (y position)
(b) What are vx and vy at this time?
m/s (vx)
m/s (vy)



This question seems pretty hard to me, I have tried about 4 times to get the answer to no avail, here's what I have done.

To try and find out where its x and y positions were after 4.0 seconds, I plugged it into the Position Versus Time Equation, xf=xi+vixt+.5axt^2

Since I have the givens

time = 4.0
Vi=5.6
a=-5.2^2

I plug it into the equation.

xf=xi+vixt+.5axt^2

xf=0+5.6(4)+.5(-5.2)^2(4.0)^2

xf=238.72

however, this answer for part A. was not correct.

Can anyone tell me what I am doing wrong here?
 
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You have to treat each direction separately.
you will have two equations
eq 1: xf=xi+vixt+.5axt^2
eq 2: yf=yi+viyt+.5ayt^2
think about what the question says and in which direction each velocity and acceleration is in.
 
Aaahh.. I see, so if it is going in the x direction at -5.2m/s^2 then after 4 seconds, it would be xf=0+0+.5(-5.2)^2(4)^2?

and if it is going in the y direction

yf=0+5.6(4)+.5(?)(4)^2

So, how do I figure out the y if I am not given the acceleration?
 
If you're not given an acceleration, I think you can assume that there is none and the particle is moving at a constant velocity in the y direction.
 
I got the final position of the y correct, but for x I am still lost.

if X is accelerating at -5.2m/s^2, where will it be in 4 seconds?

I plugged it into the position versus time equation

xf=0+0+.5(-5.2)^2(4)^2
xf=216.32

The above answer was false, I am completely lost on this, thanks for your help on solving the y position though conquer!
 
xf=xi +vixt +.5a(t^2)
compare that to your equation
"xf=0+0+.5(-5.2)^2(4)^2"
you have something I don't...
 
what am I missing? I still don't see what I have that you dont
 
heh, take a look at the acceleration...after everythign cancels, you have
xf=.5(a^2)(t^2)
I have
xf=.5(a)(t^2)
 
But.. its 5.2 meters a second squared, so doesn't that make it 5.2^2? or do I take the square root of 5.2 and put it into a?

xf=.5(-5.2^2)(4^2)

or...

xf=.5(2.28)(4^2)?
 
  • #10
okay, here's the units:
acceleration = m/s^2
t^2 = s^2
so
a x t^2 = m/s^2 x s^2 = m

so it's just xf = .5(-5.2)(4^2), this will give you your answer in meters.

a is already in m/s^2, if you square it again, your units would be m^2/s^4
 
  • #11
Ah thanks, that was correct! I still don't quite understand why you don't leave it m/s^2 though
 
  • #12
XPX1 said:
I still don't quite understand why you don't leave it m/s^2 though
hmm... I'm not sure what you mean by this.
You ARE leaving the acceleration in m/s^2 because by definition, acceleration is in m/s^2. Doing anything to that acceleration would change the formula.
You don't want the final answer in m/s^2 because you have a distance, x, which should be in meters, on the other side of the equation.

maybe there's someone else in the forums who can explain this more clearly... anybody care to give it a try?
 
  • #13
I think I understand it now, thanks for all your help!
 

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