Particle physics -- The collision of two Beta particles....

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The discussion revolves around the collision of beta particles, specifically focusing on the interactions between electrons and the implications of their collisions under various energy conditions. Participants explore theoretical scenarios, experimental contexts, and the nature of particle interactions in high-energy physics.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Technical explanation
  • Debate/contested

Main Points Raised

  • Some participants inquire about the physical situation of beta particles colliding, noting that beta particles can refer to electrons or positrons.
  • One participant mentions electron scattering due to Coulomb repulsion, comparing it to phenomena observed in discharge tubes.
  • Another participant introduces the concept of Møller scattering as relevant to the discussion.
  • It is suggested that at low energies, scattering is the primary interaction, while higher energies may allow for more complex processes.
  • Questions arise regarding the behavior of electrons if they were to travel at the speed of light, with a clarification that massive particles cannot reach that speed.
  • Some participants express that electron-positron collisions are generally more interesting than electron-electron collisions, highlighting the potential for high-precision measurements in such interactions.
  • There is a discussion about the relevance of experiments conducted at CERN, with references to specific studies and inquiries about their findings on different elements.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants express differing views on the nature of beta particle collisions, particularly regarding the significance of electron-electron versus electron-positron interactions. The discussion remains unresolved, with multiple competing perspectives on the implications of these collisions.

Contextual Notes

Participants note the importance of energy levels in determining the outcomes of particle collisions, but specific assumptions and conditions regarding these energies are not fully articulated.

Abdulaahad
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I would likr to know what would happen if two beta particles were too collide with each other
 
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Abdulaahad said:
I would likr to know what would happen if two beta particles were too collide with each other

what is the physical situation?

you have beta particles...but they are electrons so what happens when two electrons face each other...electron scattering under coulomb repulsion...the same which in a set up like discharge tube phenomena ...at what energy your particles are ? that may tell you something more. try to think over it.
 
At low energies scattering is the only option. At higher energies there are more complex processes possible.
 
drvrm said:
what is the physical situation?

you have beta particles...but they are electrons so what happens when two electrons face each other...electron scattering under coulomb repulsion...the same which in a set up like discharge tube phenomena ...at what energy your particles are ? that may tell you something more. try to think over it.
s that's true but would the same thing happen if they were traveling at the speed of light
 
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Abdulaahad said:
s that's true but would the same thing happen if they were traveling at the speed of light
Things with mass cannot travel at the speed of light. Very close to that is fine.

Electron-positron collisions are typically more interesting than electron-electron collisions.
 
Abdulaahad said:
Thanks for the booklet but have did they try to CREM on different elements

Did you read the "booklet"?
 
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mfb said:
Electron-positron collisions are typically more interesting than electron-electron collisions.
same charge electrons would be fun (eg. double charged Higgs bosons), though I don't think anyone would offer billions of dollars per year so that we can collide electrons in search of that particular thing...

Abdulaahad said:
I would likr to know what would happen if two beta particles were too collide with each other
beta particles can be positrons or electrons, what exactly are you referring to? electron-positron high-energy collisions have and are still offering us high-precision measurements. electron-electron or positron-positron would indeed be boring but for very specialized searches. Though at low-energies the e+e- for example can scatter or annihilate, the e-e- and e+e+ will only scatter.
 

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