Particular Solution of ODE using Annihilator

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The problem involves solving a second-order ordinary differential equation (ODE) using the method of differential operators, specifically focusing on finding a particular solution and the general solution. The inhomogeneous term includes an exponential function multiplied by a sine function.

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  • Participants discuss the annihilator for the inhomogeneous term and its implications for solving the ODE. There are attempts to derive the particular solution and general solution, with some participants expressing uncertainty about their methods and results.

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Several participants are exploring the implications of repeated roots in the characteristic equation and how this affects the form of the particular solution. There is a mix of proposed solutions and ongoing questions about the correctness of their approaches, indicating an active discussion without clear consensus.

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Homework Statement



By using the method of differential operators, solve

y''+2y'+2y=2e-xsinx

1. Determine what is the annihilator of the inhomogeneous term.

2. Find a particular solution.

3. Write the general solution for the equation.

Homework Equations



xneaxsin(bx) --> annihilated by --> (D2-2aD+(a2+b2))n+1

The Attempt at a Solution



1. No problem with this. Annihilated by D2+2D+2I

2. and 3. Not sure how to get these.

I multiple the annihilator by both sides of the equation. I then get ((D+1)2+1)2=0 From here I'm not sure what to do.

Thanks
 
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The idea is that because (D2+2D+2)(e-xsin x) = 0, it follows that

(D2+2D+2)[(D2+2D+2)y] = (D2+2D+2)[2e-xsin x] = 0

In other words, you want to solve the homogeneous equation

(D2+2D+2)(D2+2D+2)y = 0
 
This is how I think I should solve it from my notes:

((D+I)2+I)((D+I)2+I)y=0

Basis for kernel:

((D+I)2+I): {excos(x), exsin(x)}
((D+I)2+I): {excos(x), exsin(x)}

yp= Aexcos(x) + Bexsin(x)
yH= c1excos(x) +c2exsin(x)

y=yp+yH

y= Aexcos(x) + Bexsin(x) + c1excos(x) +c2exsin(x)

However, the answer (was given) for yp is yp=-xe-xcosx and for the general solution. is y=e-x(c1cosx+c2sinx-xcosx). I'm not sure where I am going wrong.
 
It's a good first guess, but the problem is you have repeated roots because the annihilator is the identical to the differential operator for the original equation. What do you do when you have repeated roots?
 
((D+I)2+I)2y=0

Basis for kernel:

((D+I)2+I)2: {excos(x), exsin(x), xexcos(x), xexsin(x)}


yp= A(x)excos(x) + B(x)exsin(x)
yH= c1excos(x) +c2exsin(x)

y=yp+yH

y= A(x)excos(x) + B(x)exsin(x) + c1excos(x) +c2exsin(x)

Is this correct? I still think something is wrong because I'm not getting the correct answer
 
I'm not sure if this is what you meant by what you wrote, but the particular solution is [itex]y_p = A xe^x\cos x + B xe^x\sin x[/itex]. So now you plug this back into the original differential equation and solve for constants A and B.
 

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