Partition a divergent integral into finite values

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Discussion Overview

The discussion revolves around the possibility of partitioning a divergent integral into countable disjoint subintervals, each with a finite integral value, specifically questioning whether it is feasible to achieve an integral of 1/2 on each subinterval.

Discussion Character

  • Exploratory
  • Debate/contested
  • Mathematical reasoning

Main Points Raised

  • One participant questions if it is a well-known fact that a divergent integral can be partitioned into subintervals with finite integrals.
  • Another participant suggests that it seems doable to partition the interval into countable disjoint subintervals with each having an integral of 1/2, assuming the total integral diverges to infinity.
  • A third participant expresses a need for convincing evidence or reasoning to support the claim that such a partitioning is possible.
  • A counterexample is provided involving a piecewise function that demonstrates a scenario where partitioning does not work, particularly highlighting the divergence when combining certain intervals.
  • It is noted that for a large class of functions, if the integral is well-defined and continuous over the interval, appropriate partitions can be found using the intermediate value theorem.

Areas of Agreement / Disagreement

Participants do not reach a consensus; there are competing views regarding the feasibility of partitioning a divergent integral into finite values, with some suggesting it is possible and others providing counterexamples that challenge this notion.

Contextual Notes

The discussion includes limitations regarding the types of functions considered and the conditions under which the integral is well-defined. There is also an emphasis on the need for careful handling of divergent behavior in specific cases.

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Hi there,

I am reading an article, but I faced the following problem, and I am wondering if it is well known fact.

If the integral of a function on some interval is infinity, can we partition this interval into countable disjoint (in their interiors) subintervals such that the integral on each interval is 1/2 for example?

Thanks in advance
Likemath
 
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LikeMath said:
Hi there,

I am reading an article, but I faced the following problem, and I am wondering if it is well known fact.

If the integral of a function on some interval is infinity, can we partition this interval into countable disjoint (in their interiors) subintervals such that the integral on each interval is 1/2 for example?

Thanks in advance
Likemath

It looks like it is doable. You could use any positive finite number. (I assume you mean the integral over each piece = 1/2, so that the total is the sum of an infinite number of 1/2's).
 
Thank you, but how can I convince my self that it is doable?
 
Counterexample:
##f:[0,3] \to R##
##f(x)=\frac{1}{1-x}## for ##0\leq x<1##
##f(x)=-1## for ##1\leq x \leq 2##
##f(x)=\frac{1}{x-2}## for ##2 < x \leq 3##

The ugly part is the middle section: You cannot combine it with any interval of the other two sections, as this would diverge.

It is true for a large class of functions, however: if ##\int_a^x f(x') dx'## is well-defined for every x in your interval (a,b), it is continuous and you can find appropriate intervals with the intermediate value theorem. This directly gives a way to count them, too, of course.
 

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