Pauli Matrices: Troubleshooting a Non-Zero Commutator

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The discussion revolves around the properties of Pauli matrices and their commutation relations, specifically focusing on the equation involving the Levi-Civita symbol and the conditions under which the commutator is non-zero.

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  • Conceptual clarification, Mathematical reasoning

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  • The original poster questions the apparent contradiction between obtaining a non-zero commutator for certain indices while the Levi-Civita symbol yields zero. Participants explore the relationship between the indices and the implications for the commutator.

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Some participants have provided clarifications regarding the roles of the indices in determining the value of the Levi-Civita symbol and the commutator. There is an ongoing exploration of specific examples to validate the relationship presented in the original question.

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Participants are discussing the implications of index equality and the properties of the Levi-Civita symbol in the context of the commutation relations of Pauli matrices. The original poster expresses confusion about the conditions under which the commutator is non-zero.

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Ok, I have a stupid question on pauli matrices here but it is bugging me. In a book I'm reading it gives the equation [\sigma_i , \sigma_j] = 2 I \epsilon_{i,j,k} \sigma_k , I understand how it works and everything but I do have a question, when you have k=i/j and i!=j (like 2,1,2) you get a non zero commutator and yet \epsilon gives you 0. What am I missing here? Thanks
 
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The i and j determine the value of k.

For instance if i and j are equal then obviously the commutator is zero and the \epsilon_{ijk} = \epsilon_{iik} = 0 so that's fine.

If i and j are different then k is the other value from {1,2,3}. To use your example, if i=2 and j=1 then k MUST be 3 to get a non-zero value of \epsilon_{ijk} (you don't put commas in the subscript by the way). Therefore [\sigma_{2},\sigma_{1}] = \epsilon_{213}\sigma_{3} = -\sigma_{3}

If it makes it easier, think about summation convention, so that the right hand side becomes

\epsilon_{ijk}\sigma_{k} = \epsilon_{ij1}\sigma_{1} + \epsilon_{ij2}\sigma_{2} + \epsilon_{ij3}\sigma_{3}

This means that when i isn't equal to j only one of those three terms remains non-zero otherwise k will be equal to either i or j. If i=j, then all three are zero.
 
The Levi-Civita symbol is zero if any of the 3 indices are the same. Calculate a few of those commutators and see if they equal the RHS for the kind of indices you picked and see if the relation holds if you want to see this for yourself.
 
Thanks, that clears it up.
 

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