Pendulum projectile momentum question

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The problem involves a pendulum bob that is dropped from a height and transitions into projectile motion after the string breaks. The objective is to determine the height from which the bob was released, given its subsequent vertical and horizontal movements.

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  • Participants discuss the relationship between potential energy and kinetic energy to find the speed of the bob at the moment the string breaks. There are attempts to apply equations of motion for both horizontal and vertical components of the projectile's trajectory.

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Some participants have provided guidance on how to approach the problem, including finding initial velocities and setting up equations for motion. There is an ongoing exploration of the correct equations to use, particularly regarding the horizontal and vertical components of motion.

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Participants are navigating through assumptions about forces acting on the bob after the string breaks, particularly questioning the presence of horizontal acceleration and the values of final velocities.

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Homework Statement


A 0.010 kg pendulum bob is dropped from a height (h) above its equilibrium position. When the bob reaches its equilibrium position, the string breaks and the bob now acts as a projectile. After the string breaks the bob falls 1.5 m while moving 2.0 m horizontally. Calculate the height (h) from which the bob was released.


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welcome to pf!

hi jackneedshelp! welcome to pf! :wink:

show us what you've tried, and where you're stuck, and then we'll know how to help! :smile:
 
I don't even know where to start! It should have something to do with momentum and impulse, but I can't even get started on it! Please help!
 
first find the speed of the bob (as a function of h) when the string breaks …

show us what you get​
 
I set potential energy equal to kinetic energy, and solved for v.
v = sqrt(19.62h)
 
yup! :smile:

now use that as the initial horizontal velocity of a projectile …

write standard constant acceleration equations for x and y (separately)
 
so I did the horizontal part, and got the horizontal acceleration to be 4.905h.
how do I do the vertical part?
 
jackneedshelp said:
so I did the horizontal part, and got the horizontal acceleration to be 4.905h.

how can there be any horizontal acceleration? :confused:

there's no horizontal force :redface:
 
so I'm solving for time?
 
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or final velocity?
 
  • #11
write out some equations!
 
  • #12
d = 2.0m
vi = sqrt(19.62h)
vf = 0
t = ?

2 = (0+sqrt(19.62h))/2 *t
t = 4 / (sqrt(19.62h))

is that what I'm supposed to do?
 
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jackneedshelp said:
d = 2.0m
vi = sqrt(19.62h)
vf = 0
t = ?

2 = (0+sqrt(19.62h))/2 *t
t = 4 / (sqrt(19.62h))

is that what I'm supposed to do?

something like that

but vf isn't 0 (and you aren't told what it is)

and that's the wrong equation anyway

this time, first write out the equation you're using, in letters,

then write it out with the numbers in​
 
  • #14
vf srd = vi srd + 2ad
vf srd = (sqrt(19.62h))srd + 2(0)(2)
vf = sqrt(19.62h)

so vf = vi
 
  • #15
jackneedshelp said:
vf srd = vi srd + 2ad
vf srd = (sqrt(19.62h))srd + 2(0)(2)
vf = sqrt(19.62h)

so vf = vi

well, yes, but that's a bit obvious

horizontally, a = 0, so v is constant

you need an equation with t in it​
 
  • #16
d = vi t + (0.5)(a)(t)sqrd
2 = sqrt(19.62h) t + 0
t = 2 / sqrt(19.62h)
 
  • #17
jackneedshelp said:
t = 2 / sqrt(19.62h)

yes :smile:

and now use that value of t in a similar equation for the y direction :wink:
 
  • #18
Ohhh kaaaaay! I get it! Thanks!
 

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