Photoelectric Effect and electric fields

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The discussion centers on the relationship between the photoelectric effect and electric/magnetic fields in the context of a laser emitting 1.38x1018 photons per second with a wavelength of 518.0 nm. The key equations involved include E = F/q for electric field strength and E = hf = hc/lambda for photon energy. The participants clarify that the problem is not directly related to the photoelectric effect but rather focuses on calculating energy density and field intensity using the dimensions of the laser beam. The average electric field strength and average magnetic field strength can be derived from the energy density associated with the emitted photons.

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I am having trouble figuring how the info given relates to electric and magnetic fields.

Homework Statement


A laser emits 1.38x10^18 photons per second in a beam of light that has a diameter of 1.96 mm and a wavelength of 518.0 nm. Determine each of the following for the electromagnetic wave that constitutes the beam.
(a) the average electric field strength in N/C

(b) the average magnetic field strength in T

Homework Equations


E = F/q for electric field

F = qvB sin(theta) for magnetic field

E=hf=hc/lambda for energy of a photon

The Attempt at a Solution


i solved for E the energy of a photon:
h*c/(518x10^-9m) = 3.84x10-19 Joules

I am not just some slacker begging for an answer; i have a high B in this class! i don't see how in the world the concept of the photoelectric effect can relate to electric and magnetic fields if i don't know q, F, B. I am completely lost here - someone please help!
 
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The photoelectric effect is important here because you are given the rate of emission of photons in the beam and the wavelength (hence energy) of each photon. Together with dimensions of the beam this gives you the energy density in the beam. This energy density could also be calculated from averaged electric and magnetic fields associated with the light beam. So knowing the energy density should let you calculate the electric and magnetic field energy - hence the field intensity.
 
Do i add the area of the laser beam to the energy of each photon (E)? this is so frustrating...
 
Dart82 said:
Do i add the area of the laser beam to the energy of each photon (E)? this is so frustrating...

How can you add an area to an energy? Look, the laser runs for one second, emits 1.38x10^18 photons. Those photons are in a cylinder 1.96 mm in diameter and c*1sec long. What's the energy density?
 
Dick said:
How can you add an area to an energy? Look, the laser runs for one second, emits 1.38x10^18 photons. Those photons are in a cylinder 1.96 mm in diameter and c*1sec long. What's the energy density?
sorry, i misunderstood what you had said about the dimensions of the beam. i think i need to take a break and try this one again later. 5 hours of Physics homework has tweaked my brain a bit too much. thanks for your help Dick.
 
Yeah, take a break. BTW, this isn't a photoelectric effect problem either.
 
got it... no photoelectric effect.
 

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